Donald Trump says to meet Luiz Inacio Lula 'both in Brazil and the United States'

US President Donald Trump and Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva

US President Donald Trump hailed a "very good" phone call with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva on Monday, after months of tensions, saying they would meet in both their countries.

"We discussed many things, but it was mostly focused on the Economy, and Trade," Trump said on his Truth Social network, after Brazil had earlier announced the call.

"We will be having further discussions, and will get together in the not too distant future, both in Brazil and the United States. I enjoyed the call -- Our Countries will do very well together!"

Ties have soured between Washington and Brasilia in recent months, with Trump angered over the trial and conviction of his ally, the far-right former president Jair Bolsonaro.

Trump has imposed a 50-percent tariff on Brazilian products and imposed sanctions against several top officials, including a top Supreme Court judge, to punish Brazil for what he termed a "witch hunt" against Bolsonaro.

"We are very optimistic that we will move toward a win-win situation in this relationship," said Brazil's Vice President Geraldo Alckmin, who has been tasked with continuing negotiations with US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

He noted the call had gone "even better than we expected" and that the two presidents had exchanged personal phone numbers.

- 'Excellent chemistry' -

The phone call came after what first appeared to be a chance encounter on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly last month that led Trump to hail his "excellent chemistry" with Lula.

However the Estadao news site reported the brief run-in, which included a hug, was actually the result of an intensive behind-the-scenes "diplomatic operation."

At the UN, the two leaders traded barbs in their speeches, with Lula slamming an "unacceptable" attack on the independence of Brazil's judiciary.

Despite the political and economic pressure, Brazil's Supreme Court sentenced Bolsonaro to 27 years in prison for his role in a botched coup bid after his 2022 election loss to Lula.

Trump, meanwhile, used his UN speech to accuse Brazil of "censorship, repression" and "judicial corruption."

He later switched tack, and recounted his run-in with Lula, describing him as "a very nice man, actually."

The two men stand on polar opposite sides when it comes to issues such as multilateralism, international trade and the fight against climate change.

- 'No one to talk to' -

Lula has repeatedly stated that Brazil was "ready to negotiate" regarding tariffs, but lamented there was "no one to talk to" in Washington.

"The Brazilian government has struggled to find channels for discussion with the US administration," a European diplomat told AFP on condition of anonymity.

The diplomat told AFP it was major Brazilian companies, such as Embraer and meat producer JBS that were pressuring "US authorities to change their stance toward Brazil."

The Brazilian presidency said that Lula had raised the possibility with Trump of an in-person meeting at the ASEAN summit in Malaysia in October.

He also re-iterated an invitation to Trump to attend the COP-30 climate conference in Brazil's Amazon city of Belem in November, "and also expressed his willingness to travel to the United States."