Manufacturer of parabolic springs for commercial vehicles (CV), Jamna Auto, reported a 28 percent growth in its March quarter net profit.In an interview with CNBC-TV18, Randeep Singh Jauhar, CEO & Executive Director of Jamna Auto, says that the company is working at 70 percent of its capacity.The company’s current debt stands at Rs 60 crore which has reduced substantially in the past two years from Rs 180 crore. Factors like reducing finance cost and replacing products with lower contribution with high value products from the order books will help keeping the debt and inventories lean, he said.In his view, adding a new plant, diversifying its products and even markets from being just a cyclical commercial vehicle centric company, will boost margins.With an investment of Rs 100 crore in Hosur plant, the company will be able to build up its exports business and contribute 30 percent from a mere 10 percent, Jauhar says.
Below is the edited transcript of Randeep Singh Jauhar’s interview with Reema Tendulkar and Sumaira Abidi on CNBC-TV18.Reema: Q4 has been strong. Even FY16 has been exceedingly strong. Can you tell us whether this 35-30 percent revenue growth is sustainable in FY16 and ’17?A: We have grown at 28 percent in the last quarter and if you look at the last five years, we are still about 35-40 percent below the peak. We are also below the ‘12-‘13 levels. I just still feel the ‘Ache Din’ are yet to come and our company is still about 70 percent of our capacity, we are working on 70 percent of our capacity. So we are ready and if the market grows as it should with all the infrastructure projects, the commercial vehicle (CV) market grows, we expect better results next year.Sumaira: It is 8.7 percent for this quarter, your margins look very good as well but for FY16 it is just tad above the 6 percent mark. So what is the kind of upside you have, what were the kinds of margins you were doing at your peak and how much higher do you think they could be scaled up in FY16?A: We are still being conservative going forward. We are taking a growth of about 10 percent. We feel the market should grow about 10-12 percent.Our topline will grow more than 12 percent because we expect to increase market share and add new products. The bottom-line should be more than the topline.We expect a good year going forward because besides leaf springs, we are also adding new products. The content per vehicle is going up from like Rs 20,000 by about 30-40 percent higher and these new products are very exciting, they are new technology products so we expect good set of numbers next year. I want to add couple of other things what we have done. Our team has done excellent job on cost reduction. We have reduced our cost making and balance sheet very lean. We have reduced our current assets, our debtors, our inventories have gone down.
We also have new high value added products and all the low contribution products are something which we have kind of taken off our order books.So going forward with the lean, company is expecting a better growth with mining starting and all the infrastructure product starting. We expect next 2-3 years to be exciting.Reema: Give us a sense what kind of margins at the operating level is the company targeting.A: We should be happy with double digit profit before tax (PBT) numbers, which is what we are focusing going forward.Reema: What was it in FY15 just to get a comparison. A: Our PBT in FY15 should about six to seven percent and with the finance costs going down, we expect much better numbers.Sumaira: Your interest costs has also come down this quarter to about that Rs four crore mark. Can you tell us what are the kind of steps that you have been taking to reduce your debt and what does your debt stand at right now?A: The debt figure today is Rs 60 crore. Of you look at last two years, from Rs 180 crore we went down to Rs 120 crore and now it is Rs 60 crore. So there has been a substantial reduction of debt and like I told you. We have done a couple of things. We have not expanded, we have not done much capital expenditure, in fact last two years, our capital expenditure has been less than our depreciation.
So, that has been good, added to the balance sheet. Number two, we have become like I said, earlier, very lean, our current assets have dropped substantially, even though our top line grew at 28 percent, we have reduced our current assets.
So our debtors have gone down, our inventories have gone down and then we have also sold our non-core assets. We had a joint venture where we sold our stake in that and that has been ploughed back into the company.
So even though the auto, I feel that we are still below, 35 percent below the peak and we have still been able to reduce our debt. So once the market does pick up, we feel it is going to be very exciting.
Reema: Do you still have any non core assets that you could sell and if yes what would be the value? A: We do have non core assets, but I don’t think we have any plans for selling them because we are very comfortable with this kind of debt at our balance sheet. Going forward we are also adding a new plant in Hosur near Bangalore and this is going to be for our future where we want to diversify our markets. We are focusing on three things if you look at our company we are diversifying our products which I talked about in the beginning.
We also diversifying our markets, right now we are pretty much a OE centric company but in the last couple of years we are increasing our share in after markets, exports and OE exports. We are putting up state of the art world class facility in Hosur. This is what we are going to be focusing on exports.
Our total investment would be about Rs 100 crore in Hosur plant. We are excited about this facility because this would help the company go and capture the exports markets.
Sumaira: How much do exports contribute currently to your topline and how much higher could it be post this Hosur plant coming online?A: It all depends on how the Indian market grows. However we would be very happy if our non – original equipment (OE) business is about 30 percent of our total sales and today it should be less than 10. That includes after market India, after market exports and OE exports. That is what our targets would be.Reema: Would the margins in the non – OE business be much higher than the OE business? Can you walk us through the reason for the company focusing on that and also if you could tell us what the margins are in the two types of businesses?A: There are couple of reasons. Firstly, we are focusing on reducing our break even point and commercial vehicle (CV) industry is very cyclic so what happens when the commercial vehicles industry does drop the after market business, after market export business is pretty stable so that kind of help us through the cyclic industry that is one reason.
Secondly, like you correctly said the margins are much higher, it is easier product to manufacture because they are sold not as assemblies but as loose. So it is an excellent strategy for us too reduce our break even point, build a moat around the company. We want to focus on new markets, new products to make it a more solid company. Sumaira: You sound pretty optimistic about FY16 onwards. You are setting up a new plant while that could be primarily focused on exports but from the kind of discussions that you have with your clients can we sort of infer from your optimism that the CV recovery could be imminent rather than delayed much longer?A: I personally feel that it is not going to that quick, the CV recovery. That is why like I said this year we have only taken a growth of about 10 -12 percent and we are still 35 percent below the peak. I feel once this infrastructure projects kick in, if the coal mining’s starts, iron ore starts and they start building roads then we can go back to our peak. Personally I see some revival happening in October-November. In the next year I feel 2016-2017 would be an excellent year.
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