KCP reported disappointing first quarter numbers with a 12 percent fall in total income to Rs 182.4 crore while its operating profit reduced to Rs 30.42 crore, a 45 percent fall. Operating margins contracted to 17 percent from 27 percent in year-ago period.Speaking to CNBC-TV18, GN Murty, CFO of the company said that the bottomline was impacted due to an extraordinary item of Rs 3 crore on back of floods in Chennai.Margin contraction in the cement business was a result of a fall in cement prices in April this year. However, the volumes improved to 4.2 lakh in first quarter, he says. Margins and volumes both are expected to grow at similar levels in future, Murty says. Below is the verbatim transcript of GN Murty's interview to Sonia Shenoy & Anuj Singhal.
Sonia: The margins for the company have fallen substantially at a time when a lot of your bigger peers in the same business are seeing power and fuel cost fall; your power and fuel cost have actually risen almost about 8 percent odd. What explains that and do you more pressure on margins?
A: In fact the margins side, they are more or less equivalent to quarter four of the last year. The margin trend is in the similar line of quarter four of last year but the extraordinary item, if you see about Rs 3.50 crore we incurred on the engineering units due to floods that is reflecting on the bottomline. Otherwise margins are like-to-like compared to quarter four.
On power front also we are doing more or less similar to quarter four but quarter four we had some advantage of exporting power. Now the power is surplus in the state, so there is no way we can export that kind of power. However, still we are trying to use our power to other units elsewhere by taking the approvals.
Anuj: May be what Sonia was referring to was specifically for the cement business where even the revenues have degrown and of course the margin pictures looks quite bleak there, could tell us about that as well.
A: On margin front, if you look at quarter four of last year earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) margin was about Rs 700 per tonne. This quarter is about Rs 680 nearly Rs 700 again.
The only thing is margins could have grown further in first quarter of this year but for the fact that during April the prices have come down substantially in the entire region. Thereafter they showed improvement. So, due to April fall in prices the overall average was slightly lower than quarter four. However, margins compared to quarter one of last year was substantially lower and quarter one of 2015-2016 was an exceptional quarter.
Sonia: You see more pressure on margins?
A: The margins are similar and sailing at the same level as quarter four. I expect similar lines in the coming months. However, on volumes we are much better than quarter one of last year. It is almost nearer to the quarter four of last year. So, on the volumes there is no issue, on margins there is slight decline. We are expecting that considering the happenings around the regions we operate, there could be improvement but it is to be seen.
Sonia: What exactly are the volumes that you have clocked in this quarter, the cement volumes?
A: We clocked 4.2 lakh against Rs 4.36 lakh of quarter four. Quarter one of last year was Rs 3.7 lakh only.
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