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No need to contact the company, sell at a higher price
Posted by :
comatose
Dear Guest, you should know a few facts about operators. The companies they deal with need to have the following :
1) High owner stake
2) Low floating stock
3) No FII or MF role in the company.
If you have any idea of the method of working by the operators, you would know the reasons for the above. IBSEC has no role for operators because it does not meet their basic requirements at all.
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No need to contact the company, sell at a higher price
Posted by : GuestReason(s) for this steep fall ?? Not only the Security, it is same story for all Indiabulls`s shares.. any comments..?...
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Posted by :
hemeYou must be confident about your investment decision and forget about day to day movements in the scrip. Nothing has changed at IBSEC from the time it was at 60 last month, the only thing is that big operators want retail investors to panic and sell so that they can buy in huge volumes and shore up the price making huge profits by selling then. There is unconfirmed news that Fidelity would be cornering a huge chunk of IBSEC shares for the ongoing NFO of VALUE fund. This stock will be around 82 in 6-12 months time. Please note that it is not falling steeply and also the volumes are not high so there is no cause of alarm....
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Posted by :
Panama KumarHistory has shown (and repeated) such promoters are not professionals, and are there only to eat out public money. How many times Sanjay Dalmia`s name/his companies` name hit the headlines right from late 1980`s - all about ONLY EVASIONS (DUTY, TAX) and now about forged documents! He being politically strong, having money power, always escaped from any likely punishments. This time too he will escape, you see. And Indiabulls will eat the bulls shit! ...
No need to contact the company, sell at a higher price
Posted by : GuestWhen the markets were at its worst and when the stock prices of all the companies were at all time low including Indiabulls securities, they announced the buy back at a price of 33/-. All the stocks have gone up 3 fold, 4 fold and 5 fold also. What are you dreaming comatose ? Buy Back will never happen at a price of 33. The operators will never allow it to go to those levels where the trigger will be activated. Remember its not only the investors portfolio value goes down but also the operators. If you are worried about the buy back that the company might not buy back at 33 then why dont you sell at 35.80. Still it is a higher price then the buy back price. Even if the stock touches 33 and below it will be only to fool the innocent investors into selling who knows nothing about how the stock operators work. Nothing has changed fundamentally in this company that the price has to fall to these levels when the sensex is at 17000. Common comatose, tell us with which operator you are linked...
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Posted by : BKSHAH
I agree with you that it`s a bit reverse case for this stock, but keep in mind if business is good and stable; stock unlocks its value at some point in time.
There are lot of factors which affects the price in today`s market, including syndicates etc. So you never know, who is playing what?
current price is really cheap, compare to value it should have, so value will be unlocked and that day, you will be happy.
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Posted by : comatose
I don`t understand chart patterns, but the fact that it is falling steadily in a rising market, makes me worry about what would happen when the market falls. What would be the low price, at which we can average.
I have been trying to contact the company repeatedly to get some confirmation of the buyback being in place or not. I am sorry to inform that so far none of them have made any definite statement confirming the buyback. Why don`t the other boarders also do the same and report the replies they receive from the company.
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Posted by : hemeAll genuine investors should add this stock as this has a clear potential to touch 82 Rs in mid term. It is grossly undervalued at present level. Also there is unconfirmed news that fidelity has charted out plans to corner huge chunk of this stock for there VALUE FUND which is open for subscription now....
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Posted by : ajayvizagI had bought them at Rs45 in Sep2009...
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Posted by : BKSHAHI don`t know your purchase price, but if possible you can bring down your average price by adding some more at these levels....
Sanjay Dalmia has nothing to do with Indiabulls Securities
Posted by : GuestSanjay Dalmia (A Promoter of Golden Tobacco /GTL) had take a loan from Indiabulls financials with a guarantee of some documents. Indiabulls later got a tip off from some sources that the guarantees provided against the loan were incorrect and therefore Indiabulls financials launched a complaint with the POLICE against Sanjay Dalmia. Noting the seriousness of the matter Sanjay Dalmia has agreed to pay the loan with immediate effect otherwise he could end up in jail because of the seriousness of the forgery in securing the loan. This loan amount has nothing to do with Indiabulls Securities....
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Posted by : ajayvizagI only hope that ur words come true MR.Shah. I still regret that i did not sell this share when it was at 60Rs. ...
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Posted by : BKSHAH
Chart pattern looks positive, can touch 50 to 55 with in a month.
Recommended; BUY.
This kind of companies’ nave makes losses, because their market an business is stable. Irrespective of Bear or Bull, they will get brokerages. These are the FMCGs of the new era.
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Who is selling and Who is buying
Posted by : GuestWhy didnt the report on the loss issue come out during the time when the results were published. Its more than 6 months when the march quarter results were submitted to the exchanges and published. Look at the timing of this report ,Isn`t it to scare the investors now to sell when the stock has corrected almost 40% from its recent peak of Rs. 61. This stock deserves much higher valuation and all the bad news comes out like wild fire when the big guys want to accumulate the stock at the bottom so that they can drive it up again and later spread good news. Look at the timing of this news. Why didnt anybody bother to post or highlight this issue when the stock was at Rs.61 even while the information was provided to the exchange 6 months back. Be smart guys. This is nothing but a game to scare the weak hands into selling. This company is paying dividend. Last Year they paid Rs. 7 as dividend and this year they have paid Rs. 2 as dividend. Any Operator can manipulate stock prices but dividends paid are for real and it means it is paid only from company profits and reserves. Every broker I have known big and small do take positions in the stock market in futures as well as other cash stocks and most of the times they make money on this trades. This time it could have been unfortunate to them because many big operators and brokers were caught off guard with their short positions or long positions in futures because the market went down to unbelievable levels when nobody expected and in the same manner the market bounced back in a very big way when nobody expected and that has wiped out many resulting in huge losses. The fortunate part is these losses has already been written off. This guy Srivatsa Krishna who claims to be Harvard educated, I have also read his report which was posted at live mint somewhere on November 8. Why didnt he post this report in april or may or june. The timing of this report raises a million questions. This stock easily deserves a minimum valuation of Rs 120 and above. Indiabulls name alone draws a big brand premium. Compare their price with peer valuation and stock price with even small size, medium size and big broking houses even the ones who are not much known and you will find tremendous value in indiabulls securities. Sit tight and reap benefits. Its just a matter of time. Indiabulls have been known over the years to create shareholder value and make millionaires who have invested in their companies. Nowadays a lot of bad reports and writes up are coming out on telecom stocks also and the stocks are beaten down so that the big guys can accumulate them at the bottom. Telecom sector has a long way to go in India. Wireless Internet market itself is worth Billions of dollars which will start once the 3G spectrum and infrastructure comes in place. Then you will see all positive reports on telecom sector but by then, Reliance Communication will be atleast Rs. 600, Idea atleast 150/-Save this message today and again open it on November 23, 2010 and see where the stock price of Indiabulls securities will be. Then bless me....
SELL SELL SELL
Posted by : nip
I agree to what celestine says, this sanjay dalmia news is no where connected to indiabulls securities .... only with indiabulls finance and this is a very old case pertaining to the financial years 2005-2006 and as per a freind working with the group ..... indiabulls finance has also made provisions for this as early as march 2006 and the only idea behind them filing a fresh appeal against mr. sanjay dalmia is so that he dose not fly out of the country.
While most people get confused by what people say, even the news papers say this.
Indiabulls securities is a totally different company and has not lent a penny to mr. sanjay dalmia ..... it`s a brokerage house with an asset management co (portfolio management). People allways mistake it....
