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Published on Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:58 |  Source : CNBC-TV18

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Sanjeev Prasad, Head of Research, Kotak Securities

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In an interview with CNBC-TV18, Sanjeev Prasad, Head of Research, Kotak Securities, spoke about his reading of the market and his outlook.

Below is a verbatim transcript:

Q: How are you feeling about the market now, we were threatening to breakdown but we have come back again, do you think the correction is over or you expect more downsides?

A: I think the market is looking recently fairly valued at current levels. So the whole issue now is how would the global cues be and what will happen to global flows and that is what determines the movement in the market now. So I wouldn't be surprised if the market goes down 10% from where we are or it could go up 5-7% also as money keeps coming in.

Honestly, as far as local factors are concerned, I don't think they are going to matter that much. Valuations are fully reflecting even fiscal 2011 numbers-earnings upgrades-are not happening the way they would have had; if you look at Q2 numbers, I don't think they were anything great for people to take up the numbers significantly. In fact we cut down our own numbers-we are at about 3% both for fiscal 2010 as well as 2011. So I don't think there are any real triggers for the market as far as fundamentals are concerned. It is all going to depend on global factors and I guess more importantly flows now.

Q: What does that mean for the market in terms of a range or a band now?

A: It is hard to guess but my sense is one should take a call, maybe 15,000 on the lower side and maybe 17,500 on the upper side. That is probably a good band to look at because if you look at the markets currently it is almost at about 18 times of fiscal 2010 numbers. Even on fiscal 2011 numbers, we are looking at a market which is about 15 times now and if you exclude the energy sector where the valuations are naturally lower and which is a big component of the index then you are looking at a market which is more than 19 times on 2010 and about almost 17 times on 2011.

So clearly the market is very fairly valued. So now we have to wait for some triggers to come through either in the form of some earnings upgrades or whatever which I don't think is really happening. In fact I am a bit worried about earnings numbers particularly in an energy or cement sector and then what the government does and obviously what is going to happen globally. As of now, the global consensus view seems to be that none of the central banks are going to tighten in a big way; you will see loose monetary as well as fiscal policy continuing for maybe the next six months. So maybe the markets are going to respond from that.

Q: What did you make of the goods and services tax (GST) white paper yesterday and specifically are there any takeaways at this early stage for sectors like tobaccos, stocks like ITC and even sectors like auto from the little that you have seen so far?

A: Let us wait for all the details because as always the devil will be in details. But it is obviously a step in the right direction. I would have been happier if they have done it with just a single GST rather than having a dual thing. It does raise some amount of issues with respect to whether you have the same GST rate in all the states on a particular product, if that is the case then it could become a little bit of a mess. So I assume that would be the case because that is the whole concept of GST.

One factor which I thought has still not been addressed is octroi because again it would have been a nuisance. I don't think collections really matter but it is a bit of a nightmare for the industry. So that would be a positive because it is eliminated and ultimately subsumed along with state GST. But it seems to be silent on that, let us wait for the implementation and when it actually happens. I don't know whether it is going to happen by April 2010.

As far as the sectors are concerned, ultimately it is all going to depend on the rates which are not very clear at this point of time. The one sector which I thought would have been benefited significantly if this octroi was removed would have been the refineries in Bombay of Bharat Petroleum Corporation Ltd (BPCL) and Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd (HPCL). As of now anyway crude oil as well as oil has been kept out of GST so I am not even sure even if octroi gets removed, there will be any positive impact on BP and HP. Other than that I think we will have to wait and see the details in terms of the exact rates and then only take a call.

Q: Do you track Educomp because that has taken a bit of knock these last few days after it said it would securitize its smart-class revenues?

A: We don't track it but something like that is not a good signal. It is basically a case of the company pulling its revenues forward and at the same time there is a mismatch with revenues and expenses clearly. So if you have such lose accounting policies, clearly the market is not going to favour such things.

 

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