FM may not do much in Budget '09: Morgan Stanley

Published on Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:43 |  Source : CNBC-TV18

Updated at Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:28  

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Sridhar Sivaram, Executive Director, Morgan Stanley

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Q: On the subject of valuations-how are you feeling about infrastructure because that's where the market has taken the biggest leap of fate, so to speak, ever since the election outcome to now?

A: Some of them maybe fairly valued. There still could be opportunity. So, if you see number of stocks in the infrastructure space, especially some of them on the construction side, are still maybe 50-60% down from the peak and order books are maybe still much better than what they were two years back. So maybe some of the largecaps are now coming closer to their respective peaks and even there you could argue that they are much better off now than what they were one and a half years back because the revenues are much higher now. So I would say on the balance, we are still overweight the industrial space, which includes the infrastructure names. I think there is surely a potential for growth here. If the government does put some thrust on this sector we could see more orders coming in for some of these companies and they could result in slightly more higher valuation. Hence, I would say there is some more room left for the sector to move up.

Q: You have been giving pass to many of the QIPs. Did you give a pass to Mahindra Holidays' IPO as well or put in a bid there?

A: We did. It was too small for our fund size, so it would still be on our radar, we will take a look at when it gets listed.

Q: At this time, what's your prognosis for the Budget, market, equation or reaction?

A: Let's look at the backdrop; we are running a fiscal deficit of about 11%, every company wants excise duties to be cut, so the demand for more sops from every corner that we can think of and I think the Finance Minister's hand will be tight. The Finance Minister need not do everything in the first Budget that he is presenting. Our belief, on the fiscal deficit is that, at a time when economy is going through a difficult phase, it isn't such a bad thing because if we go a year back-our fiscal deficits were helping other economies because of oil, food import and fertiliser imports. This fiscal deficit is more internal and it's acting as a stimulus to the economy.

Thus, maybe they will continue with the fiscal deficit for another nine months and that's actually boosting consumption. Knowingly or unknowingly the government has been, because of the fiscal deficit, had a stimulus package working throughout the last 12 months. And maybe that's the reason why the gross domestic product (GDP) hasn't gone down as much as most of the other economists would have expected. So, I think they will continue with this. You have to keep in mind that there are another three State elections coming up and the government is not going to lose focus on that.

So I will bet that the reforms will be back ended. I am saying reforms, which the market likes and some of the other measures, which the government is putting in place, will continue. At the balance, I would say that the markets maybe disappointed at the end of the Budget on Monday but then will come back on track because the economy will continue to grow. As I said, we still have a large overweight on India and emerging markets and we think India is a good destination to invest.

Q: Aside from real estate and infrastructure, how you are approaching some of these stressed balance sheet stories. Does this look like a good opportunity to buy into something like a Suzlon, for eg, or not quite?

A: Everybody would have to take their own call. In some cases, once they get credit, some of these companies could revive again but the question is if it is depending on international demand then one has to look at how some of these economies are shaping up. Hence, I guess, it has to be sector by sector or stock by stock. Just because credit is available doesn't mean that these companies would start doing well again. It's possible that some of these stocks were beaten down because of non-availability of credit so there is an opportunity for these stocks to move up but finally the stock will do well on a sustained basis only if the company starts doing well and starts to show growth. Therefore, I guess that would be the key for all of these companies who have stressed balance sheets.

Q: Monsoon paucity news has come as a bit of a shot in the arm for the sugar sector where people believe that maybe the crop will be even lower and prices may move up next year. Would you buy that story for sugar stocks?

A: The monsoon wasn't great even last year for the sugar sector. I remember meeting one of the sugar company and they were mentioning that though the rainfall was good, distribution was poor last year and the yields were very poor as a result of that. So this could continue again this year, if the rainfall is not good. However, what has happened is that, in the previous year, because of increase in the minimum support price (MSP) for a lot of the other agri products, there was a shift away from sugarcane. Now the sugarcane prices that some of these companies are offering is very lucrative.

I think there has been more sugarcane crop this year and it's possible that some of the production maybe higher than last year. But it's possible that there could be a shortfall. We have to look at what the government does in terms of the end product sugar price. I mean this is one industry where the input and output prices both are controlled in some senses. So that's the big question mark here. If sugar prices run-up substantially-will the government intervene-maybe. I don't know but that's a big question mark for the sector.

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