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Michael Spencer, Chief Economist of Deutsche Bank,
Stephen Pope, Chief Global Market Strategist of Cantor Fitzgerald, said the bailout would give some break to current market volatility but he does not see anything substantial economic recovery in the
Q: What do you see as the scenario going forward, even assuming the House votes for the Bill?
Pope: If the House votes for the bailout package then we would stop work on cleansing the balance sheets of the affected banks. We also look with interest as to how much help will be given to non-US banks for those who have had registration in the
Focus will start shifting toward what the impact upon
Q: Do you sense that the kind of deep cuts we are seeing in the stock markets could at least slowdown once the package is set into motion and the actual buying of the poison bonds starts or do you think that this will be insufficient to re-oil the credit markets?
Pope: It would certainly bring us a bit of a firebreak in the great wave of volatility and the selling pressure that we experienced. There was an element of capitulation last Monday. We had a very tough year and people will look to trade into some rallies until they are confident that things are genuinely improving. Until the gap between the dollar and the central rate diminishes, one will see difficulty within the credit markets overall.
Q: How do you explain the market weakness just a day ahead of the vote we will have tonight?
Spencer: I think what the market is telling us is that it (bailout package) is not going to materially improve the outlook for the financial system and will have very little immediate impact on the economic fundamentals, and the news on that in the last few days continues to get very bad.
Q: Would you say that once the toxic bond buying starts in the US, you could see the LIBOR moving down, or do you think that is insufficient and perhaps more will be needed than the USD 700 billion package?
Spencer: I think it would eventually over time complicate things. The Treasury is likely to be buying these mortgage backed securities and USD 500 billion lops approximately every fortnight. It would sort of take a long time before the market decides that they have got a reasonable basis upon which to price things.
What is more important and linked to that is re-capitalising the banks. A good portion we think of the money that the Treasury is seeking under the legislation, we think would be used to inject equity into the banking system.
If that can be done, either directly or through essentially paying above market prices for mortgage backed securities before banks fail, then the counterparty credit risk may start to recede and LIBOR spreads may come down.
The risk is that the legislation ends up giving the Treasury a fund to protect the system when banks fail, in which case it does nothing to resolve the issue of counterparty credit risk.
Q: So you are expecting more failures in the
Spencer: Everybody is expecting more failures in the
If the legislation makes it difficult for them and unpalatable for them to sell assets to the government then it is not really achieving what Secretary Paulson is hoping to achieve. The run on wholesale financed banks and securities companies will probably continue.
The situation in the
On the continent you have got a lot of very weak banks but fortunately for the system there in for most part already government owned. So the systemic risk is not nearly as bad on continent as it is in
Q: How long and deep do you expect recessionary conditions in the
Pope: I think one would probably find the
Confidence will not pervade into mainstream. People will not start spending. In fact Americans are now amazingly starting to save money where they can which is almost unheard of. So what you would see is that the economy will drag along the bottom probably for at least another six to nine-months. I don’t think one is going to see anything rosy out of US in terms of economic recovery until the end of the second quarter.
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