Govt to bear LPG, kerosene under-recoveries: Oil secyPublished on Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:53 | Source : CNBC-TV18 Updated at Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 08:47
Yesterday, the government took a very important decision regarding the oil price hike. Petrol prices were hiked by Rs 4 per litre while diesel prices were up by Rs 2 a litre. Kerosene and LPG prices were left untouched.
Here is a verbatim transcript of the exclusive interview with RS Pandey on CNBC-TV18. Also watch the accompanying video. Q: The only issue of not confusion but ambiguity in the eyes of the oil companies is your statement yesterday that the Rs 30,000 crore loss on the cooking fuel subsidy is going to be borne by the government. Did you mean that it would be borne directly by the government from the budget or would it be shared by the upstream companies? A: The under-recovery on account of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) and kerosene will be met by the government. The precise mode will be decided in due course in consultation with Ministry of Finance. The upstream companies are not to bear any burden on account of LPG and Kerosene under-recovery. Q: Are you saying that the upstream companies like ONGC and GAIL will only bear any kind of loss sharing or subsidy sharing on auto fuels but nothing on cooking fuel? A: Yes that is the position so far. Q: What you were debating-the final decisions that you alluded to will only be the mechanisms of the government paying that 30,000 crore oil bonds or in what format? A: That we will decide in due course. Q: This would be hugely positive news for upstream companies like ONGC, if they are not to bear any of the subsidy burdens on the cooking fuel losses because that is the largest amount? A: You should also remember that ONGC's profits will be less this year as compared to last year because last year crude prices averaged to a much higher level than is the case now. Although future is uncertain, nobody knows what's going to be the level of crude pricing in future. But as of now, at the current levels, the earnings of ONGC are going to be less as compared to last year and therefore the burden also will be proportionately less. Q: Now that you have clarified that the upstream companies will not bear any of the cooking fuel losses, is that decision that you speak of regardless of the price of crude or dependent and contingent on where the price of crude is? A: So far we have taken a call based on certain assumptions and it is very difficult to estimate under-recovery. You would be aware that an increase of USD 1 per barrel in crude price on an annual basis increases under recovery by over Rs 3,000 crore. You also should know that an increase in the rupee-dollar exchange rate by Rs 1 rupee increases under-recovery by over Rs 4,300 crore on an annual basis. Thus, there are lots of uncertainties because the exchange rate and the crude prices changes everyday. So some assumptions have been made and it has been decided that the under-recovery on account of petrol and diesel would be shared by the upstream companies. Q: At this point, what are you working with, as the total figure for the subsidy. You indicated Rs 30,000 crore yesterday and how would that be split up between auto fuel and cooking fuel losses? A: Rs 30,000 crore is a calculation based on the current exchange rates, which is based on an average of USD 70 per barrel crude over the year and that takes us to an amount of about more than Rs 30,000 crore on account of LPG and kerosene alone. The tentative calculations of the under-recoveries for all the four products indicate a figure of Rs 70,000 crore on an annual basis. Thus, these are all very tentative figures and as I explained earlier, it could change because of the exchange rate due to crude pricing and at the current level of the product pricing. Q: Having allowed oil marketing companies (OMCs) to raise prices, thereby bringing down their under-recoveries significantly. Would you consider giving them some oil bonds during the next fiscal year or the current fiscal or do you think the government will be reluctant to give them any support through oil bonds this year? A: The government will give them full support as far as their under-recovery is concerned. But, in what form it will come, this we will work out in consultation with the Ministry of Finance. As you would be aware, the first month of the current financial year was not do bad for the OMCs. But, in the last one month or little over one month, it has really turned negative for them. Now, the season has come, we are in touch with the Finance Ministry and we will work out details. Continued on Page 2...
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