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(Interview Transcript)
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Arvind Mills has declared its results for the quarter ended March 2008 (Q4). The company's adjusted net profit was at Rs 5.37 crore versus Rs 12.2 crore. Its reported net profit was at Rs 5.37 crore versus Rs 5.40 crore.
During the same quarter its net sales were at Rs 658 crore versus Rs 486 crore. Its OPM were at 6% versus 8.2%.
Sanjay Lalbhai, Chairman & MD of Arvind mills said that the company plans to unlock value via land and had appointed Ernst and Young for the same.
Lalbhai said that the company has a land portfolio worth Rs 700 crore which could be unlocked going ahead. He added that the company has managed to improve its realisation by 2-3% in the domestic market.
Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with Sanjay Lalbhai:
Q: Can you start of by detailing what kind of performance there was, particularly on the denim side both by way of volumes and realizations?
A: Our volumes were down by 20% but our realization compared to last year has gone up by 15%.
Q: Where do you see things heading in that particular division over the next few quarters?
A: We do believe that a stronger kind of order book is likely to happen in Q2 and Q3, which we are experiencing because China is becoming increasingly competitive and we see a lot of demand coming towards India.
Q: The branded garment side has actually shown quite a jump at least at the PBIT level. Do you see that contributing more and more to the topline and the bottomline over the next few quarters and even a ballpark percentage participation?
A: Yes, absolutely. We have renamed our company from Arvind Mills to Arvind Ltd and we have a brand new logo, which epitomizes the kind of change in the strategies and the visions that we have for the next ten years. We are rapidly going to grow in the branded apparel segment and apparel retailing through mega mart.
Q: I just want to get back to the denim performance though, on two counts where do you see things going on the concerns of over capacity in the domestic market and also the way the currency has been moving this month?
A: This is a unique situation, where the rupee has appreciated, cotton prices are at an all time high, the utility cost which is the coal based or gas based is amongst the highest because of the crude prices and the demand is sluggish because ever since the sub-prime crisis, America and Europe have slowed down. So this is the worst scenario in which we are operating. The good news is from here you can only have improvements. The improvements in either cotton price or utility cost.
One will have to wait and see how the commodity cycles play out. There are divided views. There is a view that there will be a meltdown in commodity prices because they are not sustainable. At the same time as land under cultivation is going to renewable energy there is likely to be lower cultivation of cotton in America. China has almost 60% market share in world trading textiles but the Chinese costs are going up faster than India. So that is a huge opportunity, which can change the scenario in Q3 and Q4.
Q: Do you think that cotton prices might be somewhere near the peak and things are going to improve a little bit by way of input costs for you? As we understand it prices have been scaled down for denims and shirts this quarter.
A; Prices have not been scaled down, on the contrary we have increased the prices by Rs 3/meter for the domestic price and so have some of the other mills. We have been able to increase our price realization by Rs 2-3 in the domestic market.
Out export market has an average selling price of USD 2.80/meter and this is amongst the highest average price, Arvind Mills has seen ever since the existence of denim. Our sales realization is Rs 105 because the rupee has come down from 45 to 40 against the dollar but if one sees our price movement in dollar terms its amongst the highest, so there are some positives.
Q: You are also looking to unlock value through your non-strategic assets. What would that relate to? Are you talking specifically about the real estate properties and what kind of unlocking do you have in mind?
A: We want to unlock the non-strategic assets, which is predominantly land and we have appointed Ernst & Young for the same. They are working on the feasibility report as to what could be done with those land parcels. After putting a proper evaluation and looking as to what kind of value creation opportunities there are, we intend to scout around as to see how we can realize the best value and unlock this for putting it back into strategic businesses.
Q7: What are the preliminary figures on land available and what it has been valued at right now?
A: The assignment has been given to Ernst & Young, so we will be able to talk about this specific numbers and the roadmap ahead once the report is with us.
Q8: But you do not have any estimate of the kind of land that might be on the block for unlocking?
A: We believe that we have a portfolio of around Rs 700 crore of assets, which can be unlocked in a foreseeable future. It could be one-year, two-years or three-years. We also have to look at the timing. We do not want to sell at the wrong time, so we will have to see. Our estimation could be wrong so we need to wait for report from Ernst & Young to ascertain whether this is the correct number.
Q9: While all that happens the concern of course is when the core business turns around, from what you are seeing right now. Can you foresee any turn in the denim cycle or do you see things turning into a margin positive situation for you or at least the margins improving in the next few quarters?
A: Our margins are good, our volumes are down we were selling at around 8 million meters a month. We are down to 6.5 million meters a month. The prices have dramatically gone up. Even though we have had an adverse impact due to cotton and utility cost and exchange rate, we have been able to preserve our numbers. We are selling at USD 2.80 a meter of denim in international markets and our domestic average price is Rs 105 a meter. So the price realization is pretty good. There is room to improve by differentiating, which we will constantly.
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