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US eco to set mkt trend in H2: Lotus AMC

Published on Thu, Jun 05 at 10:28 , Updated at Fri, Jun 06 at 14:18
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Ajay Bagga, CEO of Lotus Asset Management expects an entended bout of downward trend in the market. US economic numbers will decide the direction of the market in second half, he said.

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with Ajay Bagga:

 Q: What is your sense of where this market is headed in the short-term?

 A: The second or third leg of the credit crisis in US is about to play out. The markets were really dominated by the financials and the risk of more financials going under. That risk really dooms large; inflation is very much established in most countries.

 The two Central Bank meetings today will caution on inflation. Probably there will be no change in interest rates today both in England as well as in the Euro zone. But overall, situation is looking pretty grim. We are going to see an extended bout of very rangebound and downward trend in the markets. Any scope or any trigger for the markets to really go off in a hurry in this kind of a global situation is not seen.

 Q: You think the earlier lows of January and March will hold out as a support or are we working at lower levels this time given the environment?

A: The one good thing has been that some time has elapsed but a lot will depend on the corporate earnings expectations. We are still looking at 7.5-8% economic growth as we have not seen sectors come off very badly yet. The street has got it wrong on sectors like banks because they will be able to pass-through a lot of the interest rate hikes. Albeit given all that, you would still see some more pain on the corporate earnings growth. So, given that, there is a chance that previous lows could be tested again.

But what we are really looking at is the expectation a year down the line. The second half of US economic numbers will really determine where the markets go because most analysts are calling a recovery in the second half and not a very strong recession. But, most knowledgeable experts are calling it a long and broad recession in the US. So, that will determine a lot in terms of our markets as well.  

Q: What sense do you have of flows from here? We have seen quite a bit of outflows happening from the FII front. In your conversations with people, do you see those outflows drying up in the near-term or persisting?

 A: Yesterday or the last three-four days, the big names were the sellers in our markets and in most Asian markets as well. We expect that to continue and we are not seeing any triggers for further inflows. The rupee-dollar expectation is really playing on people’s minds; not on very long-term pension fund type of investors. But the others are saying we might as well hold on in India. We have to look at September’s forecast and then we will always find a level to comeback. So, we are not seeing people in a hurry to really increase commitments.

In terms of outflows, USD 4 billion has gone off already year-to-date; will that stem or continue is the question. A lot will depend on the health of the global economy. For India, it’s little grim given the political and our economic situation. People could be going easy on the country-risk part and will stay on the sidelines rather than stay invested. But luckily we have a very strong F&O market; so we are seeing the shorts build up. People have bought a lot of protection there and that could mean that the cash side may not see that big sell-off going ahead. It will be unlike a lot of the emerging markets or even the frontier markets where there are not developed derivatives segment. 

 Q: The mutual funds have ridden this period of uncertainty but there hasn’t been any serious redemption. What are you picking on that front? Are you hearing of any sort of increased nervousness and what exactly is happening with all that New Funds Offers (NFO) money that was picked up earlier?

 A: Largely not invested yet. If you see the mutual fund numbers, they have been at about USD 1.3-1.4 billion year-to-date. That’s a very small number in the phase of USD four billion - FII redemption.

In terms of flows, January saw Rs 16,000 crore net inflows, February was Rs 6,000 crore net inflows, March went on to about Rs 4,500 crore, April saw about Rs 600 crore only of net inflows. Redemptions were there in April and in May - we saw about Rs 1,100 crore of net inflows. So, mutual funds were largely flat; the good news of course being that the redemptions have not happened. There are about 40 lakh transactions happening in the equity mutual funds but that’s largely driven by the 30 lakh odd Systematic Investment Plans (SIPs) that are existing. So, overall flows have dried up as we have seen even in the secondary market.  

Q: Is the equity market pricing in the damage or is it a psychological damage that a double-digit inflation rate could do?

A: It’s bad news all around because earlier when the rates went up, you at least had the foreign External Commercial Borrowing (ECB) route open to corporates. So, we are seeing cost of funds going up, the hurdle rates increasing, the project cost going up and in a reduced liquidity environment that’s not very good news for corporate earnings. Markets will really tend to panic at these kind of inflation rates that we are going to see two-weeks from now. We will see this impact coming through and four-six weeks from now you will see a pass-through happening into all the sectors of the economy. We have already seen the transporters talking of a 15% hike.

Even at this rate, we are now more than USD 4 per gallon. So, we have reached US prices on petrol but even at this rate, if we look at the under-recoveries, there is a huge fiscal overhang in the economy. That itself constraints the policy options available, you are going to see an interest rate hike and you need to dump down and dampen the economy even more and hopefully get down the demand for these commodities. But overall policy options very limited.     

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