Q1 nos to be broadly inline with expectations: SBI MF
Published on Mon, Jun 16 at 18:17 , Updated at Thu, Jun 19 at 12:37
Source : CNBC-TV18
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On Q1 earnings, Sinha said, it will be the silver lining. "The market is taking cues from the advance tax numbers. FII flows can turn positive if earnings growth supports the market. Q1 results are likely to be broadly inline with the expectations."
Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with Sanjay Sinha and Sudarshan Sukhani: Q: Can we look for slightly higher levels or is the market still on uncertain ground? Sinha: All the uncertainties that were there in the market have not gone as yet, because the biggest uncertainty before the market right now is the level of inflation. We are still in a territory where the full impact of the fuel price hike has not come out in the Wholesale Price Index. The market has braced itself to a reality that we might see double-digit inflation. That is not the uncertainty. The uncertainty is whether we are going to be in a double-digit inflation scenario for a long period of time or will that be a very small phase which will last beyond a few weeks. The market has to take stock of that. If we continue in a long phase of very high inflation, then there could be some scope for correction. But if that phase is not long, then we should be in fairly clear ground. Q: Do you think we are in a tight rangebound market or do you feel there is downside in the near term? Sinha: At this current point of time, the downside to the market would come from two sources. One would be structural, which would be caused by the inflation being very high and not just being high. What would be the factors that would keep inflation high? That would be strong commodity and crude prices, which would therefore end up impacting margins of companies. Therefore, earnings for the next few quarters may not be so good. If that sort of a scenario is something, which I would call as structural reason for the market to come down, the other reason for the market to fall would probably be events, and there are not too many of them right now, before we get into the result season in July. As of now, expectations of results in July are relatively subdued because one had a quarter full of high commodity prices and interest rates. If the results do surprise us on the upside, then there is scope on the markets to move up. But if not, then may be there could be some downside as a result of that event. The other significant event, which could bring the market down, could be politics because we still have the nuclear treaty out in the open for discussion and ratification. If there is something in terms of political ranting on that issue, that could be a negative. But other then these two issues, the other issue, which could have an impact on markets, could be liquidity. FIIs have been fairly strong sellers in the markets this year with more than USD 5.5 billion worth of selling which has been very well absorbed by domestic institutions ‑ a mix of mutual funds and insurance companies. On that count, I don’t have too many worries as to whether liquidity would be a factor, which would bring the market down. But structural and event-based issues could be. Q: You were talking about earnings for the coming quarter. We have had some advance tax numbers that don’t look terribly bad. Do you think it is possible that the July number surprises on the way up or is that being too optimistic? Sinha: That is the silver lining in today’s scenario. I see a lot of parallel between what is happening now and what happened in April just a few months back. In April, expectations as far as results were concerned were very subdued and the results did end up surprising us on the upside by being close to expectations that were there in the early part of January and in some cases even exceeding that. Therefore, markets have taken cue from some of the advance tax numbers that have been floating around to get a sense that probably the numbers in July may not be as bad. If you look at India today, what we have in favour of our markets are valuations. That has taken the assumption that earnings forecasts made at the early part of the year are not at risk. If that stands the test of time, then there are compelling valuations in favour of India. Even FII flows, that are at this point in time negative, will definitely turn positive in the later half of the year. That could be a big psychological support to the market. If earnings do not support us, even valuations of the market would become an open question. If valuations do appear a little stretched, even at 15,500 levels, then there could be room for downside. I would put my bet on an earnings outlook for July 2008 at being more or less near expectations given the fact that the advance tax numbers are also good. Q: Reliance MF said they are still sitting on 20% cash on an average across their equity portfolios. Are you running cash as well in case of an eventual downside or are you pretty much invested? Sinha: This May end, our cash levels have been relatively higher than what they have been normally in the past. That is the result of three factors primarily. Ever since the market fell in January, as a fund house we have been getting net inflows on almost all days, which is a stark contrast from what we had seen in May 2006 and before that in May 2004. The amount of cash that was created by fund managers for meeting redemptions, which would be an expected scenario in a market downside, actually never came about. On the contrary, we have got net inflows into our fund. So, that’s one of the reasons why we have higher cash. Second, we have paid out some dividends in the early part of this year and had created cash to pay out dividends rather than using that cash or draw it down. We actually got inflows and therefore that cash is also there. Obviously, there has been some selling, which has been done by us to move from some sectors to the other or to move out from some stocks to the other. In a trending down market, we have chosen to be a little slower in terms of deploying that cash. Because of a combination of all these three reasons, our cash levels are relatively high. As to whether that cash is something that is waiting for the opportune market bottom in which to pick up stocks that will not happen because we buy sectors and stocks. The market bottom may not coincide with all the stocks and all the sectors bottoming out together. At the right valuations, we are picking up stocks even today and have been picking up all through the decline. Q: Do you see more upside for the Nifty or are we still looking shaky? Sukhani: The Nifty is giving us two different messages. First, the intermediate trend remains down. I don’t think that has changed. The overall thrust of the market will remain on the downside. Last week’s repeated forays to 4,400, intra-day bounce backs, and the long shadows that were made, told us that perhaps the short-term trend has changed. This means that at least for some time in the short-term the market is likely to go higher rather than lower. The pace of this up trend is slow because there is bear pressure still continuing on the market. 4,700-4,750 seems to be a reasonable target, give or take a few points maybe on the higher side. So, that’s the level that we should be looking at. At that point, we should then evaluate if the intermediate trend is changing. But at this point, the short-term trend is cheerful. There are a lot of sectors giving messages that something is going on there, whether its tech, pharma, or even a real estate. That is a forgotten chapter. Something is going on everywhere, with some buying going on. Q: How do you approach trading now? Do you buy at every small dip to play it up to 4,750 or do you wait for sharp upmoves to examine shorting opportunities again? Sukhani: Since the short-term trend is up, we are only now looking to buy at dips, as I am more interested in the short-term trend. Since the market is giving signs that every time it falls, it finds supports, the ideal way is to wait for small declines go long and either carry the position or cut it out at a small profit. I would prefer to carry these positions with the disclosure that I am long in the market. Q: Where would you keep a stop loss, if you are trading the Nifty long now? Sukhani: The stop loss is somewhere around 4,500 for Nifty futures. Both of them are at the same level. A 60-70 point stop loss from current levels is a very reasonable measure. If it goes below that then clearly things have changed. If the uptrend is not sustained, it is wiser to get out.
Q: Can you play real estate and banking for some trading gains? If yes, then which stock? Sukhani: This is the time to go long, as these are no longer momentum stocks. It means that the moment I buy the stock, it’s not going to go up necessarily. For the trader who has patience, this means they are not really intra-day calls. But for someone who is a swing trader, who can take a delivery or position in a few days, there is some upside there. From the real estate space, Unitech and Purwankara are giving some very unusual signs to move up. In banking, there are a host of stocks like Bank of Baroda, Bank of India. The two bigger ones like HDFC Bank and ICICI Bank have both given those short-term buy signals. It is anybody’s guess whether these buy signals will be sustained or will they fail. That’s a different issue. We don’t know that, but as traders we have listened to those signals and the idea is to go long. Q: We have got a small intra-day dip towards the end in hot fertiliser stocks like Chambal and Nagarjuna. Would you accumulate them or do you think profits need to be booked there? Sukhani: Profits need to be booked there because there is that small amount of sector rotation that’s likely to start. Their focus will shift to other sectors and these are already at higher levels. The wise thing is for fertilizers to be sold and wait for a much bigger correction before one re-enters. We have noted that these fertiliser stocks keep on giving us those rapid-fire corrections. They will come again.
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