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RBI may raise reverse repo by 25 bps: Enam

Published on Tue, Apr 29 at 10:37 , Updated at Tue, Apr 29 at 12:59
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Nandan Chakraborty, Head of Research, Enam Securities, said the Reserve Bank of India, or RBI, will continue to remain hawkish and may raise the reverse repo by 25 bps. "The central bank may also pare down GDP growth estimates. We also see some measures to ease liquidity flows."

 

He feels that most fears are factored in.

 

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive with Nandan Chakraborty:

 

Q: What’s your expectation from Dr YV Reddy today and how are you approaching the rate sensitive sectors, banks particularly, in the light of inflation and the interest rate turf now?

 

A: With inflation having touched 7.33%, the RBI will continue to be hawkish because that’s their primary agenda. The secondary agenda is growth. There could be increase in the Reverse Repo, because if they hike Repo, there is too much lag for it to have effect. So, may be the Reverse Repo will be increase by 25 bps or so, there may be a little bit of moderation on the GDP growth rate for FY09, and a slew of administrative measures both good and controlled oriented. This is to do with easing export of capital from India for corporates, bond market development, may be in shrinkage in margins, and increase in risk weightages both to control liquidity as well as to avoid forex derivatives.

 

As far as interest rate sectors are concerned, there are basically two direct sectors one is auto and the other is banking and indirectly the infrastructure and capital goods sector. Banking is one of those sectors which on a long-term basis is still very undervalued, while this interest rate would effect public sector banks more than private sector banks in general. But both private as well as public sector banks are under valued, so a lot of the fear is already discounted in. The reason why they are undervalued is because in the short-term they are more vulnerable. If you can’t take short-term volatility, then don’t go into banks but for the long-term that’s good.

 

In auto, there are certain systemic things that are going to happen on which we can’t take a call like how the Nano or JLR will do and how Maruti will cope with competition and so on. So, these are the things, which are still to unfold. Till then, competition seems to be huge and raw material pressures are also there. There is salary pressure and stuff like that. So, auto is not to do with interest rate, it has problems of its own.

 

The third one is indirect which are engineering and infrastructure sectors. People who give orders to capital goods companies are moderating their own growth expectations, hence their order book have decelerated. The infrastructure sector is quite undervalued.

 

The telecom sector could see a lot of upward positive surprise.

 

Q: You have gone underweight on the capital goods sector, is it the sort of earnings disappointment you have seen this quarter that has caused that rating?

 

A: In terms of market capitalization, most of the capital goods sector is into power equipment where there is competition. The other part is the general capital goods sector, which is non-power related. Since all the results are not out, we can’t take a complete call but we have seen peaking of the order book.

 

The whole industry operates on a networth criteria, which is the bigger you are the more orders you get. When the P/Es are high and they have not fallen enough, it is better to be careful because you do not know what sort of execution challenges will come up and how much more order book decrease could be there. P/E ultimately is the function of almost how many years ahead you are looking in terms of the order book for a capital goods company and these challenges are in the price like it is in banking.

 

Q: You are a bit aggressive on commodity as a space, what is it that you are looking at more carefully the big run in energy, oil and gas as a space or are you looking at some of the metals now?

 

A: I would look at all forms of commodities and in that oil is a peculiar animal. There are people who say that oil will go to USD 200 per barrel and there are others who say that it will go to USD 60 per barrel. So, it is a very difficult to call. Nobody knows that the US oil reserves are the highest in the last five-years and how much the Arabian countries have in their ground is really not known, so oil is too difficult to focus. So, leave oil out of the whole equation for now as far as macro economics is concerned because there is lot of global politics.

 

I am concentrating on non-ferrous metals and agro commodities like sugar etc. The reason why they are undervalued is because in the short-term they are vulnerable. Secondly, volume growth that we are going to see in metals companies is unprecedented and they are unlike many of capital goods and engineering companies as they already have the cash and their annual cash flow can generate the money required. They do not need to dilute equity. In most cases, they already have the land, so it is almost like a no that if you are willing to wait for a few years, volumes will come. So, if you take a deceleration in metal prices in the short-term, the volume will offset it over the long-term.

 

Q: How have you read the recent global pull back? We have had a reasonable bounce about 20% from the lows for most global markets. Do you think liquidity is beginning to open up, risk appetite is opening up a bit, or do you think the next quarter will continue to remain volatile and uncertain?

 

A: There is a global problem, If you look at all the global indices especially adjusted for their relative currency appreciation with respect to the dollar, most emerging markets indices, except India and to an extent China, have actually gone back to the levels that it was in January. China and US have actually gone back. Therefore, it is an Indian problem with all the imperatives to do with pre-election inflation control being the most important, and things like elastic part of inflation control which is food, metals, and the more difficult to control ones. So, inflation, price control, the forex derivative are the most important.

 

Those sort of areas and the whole economic policy is like as if a car is being driven by both the break and the accelerator on. You have fiscal spending which is the accelerator and the monetary tightening which is the break. So, that sort of money is an Indian problem. In the next 3-4 months, it will be the end game for the resolution of a lot of these in India, not so much connected to the world.

 

Globally, there is so much of a cash in the world that it can’t lie unutilized for a long time. There are US pension fund managers, oil producing companies, and capital account surplus nations like China. If China keeps putting money in Europe instead of the US then there will be problem in terms of Europe going down, so there is no easy solution to it. There is a huge amount of cash which is being generated globally. I don’t think it’s a definitive take off mode globally.

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