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Oil spike over $140/bbl to take mkts down: Dipan Mehta

Published on Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:43 , Updated at Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 16:55
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Dipan Mehta believes that all eyes are on the global markets and the movement of crude oil. As of now, the situation of the markets is very fluid. He said, "It is a bit difficult to say at this point of time because the situation is quite fluid. If oil spikes beyond USD 140 per barrel, our markets can go down further maybe even below previous lows, which we have seen last week."

There is oil on one side and the Sensex-Nifty on the other side depending upon what percentage one moves, the other one will move opposite in more or less similar fashion and percentage , he added.

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with Dipan Mehta:

Q: What is your own sense of how the next few days might shape up? Will we get away with a quiet series or are global markets looking a lot more tentative now?

 

A: At this point of time all eyes are on global markets and how the crude oil behaves and we have an important event on Sunday. Some news could be expected from the meeting with the Saudi Arabian Oil Ministry and the government over there. So, that is an important cue, which all markets are looking forward to.

 

It is a bit difficult to say at this point of time because the situation is quite fluid. If oil spikes beyond USD 140 per barrel, our markets can go down further maybe even below previous lows, which we have seen last week. But if oil prices correct from these levels and go down to below USD 130 per barrel then it would climb back up to around 16,000-17,000 levels. So, it is a very simple equation, which the market is dealing with at this point of time. There is oil on one side and the Sensex-Nifty on the other side depending upon what percentage one moves, the other one will move opposite in more or less similar fashion and percentage.

 

Q: You track media and there seem to be some reports this morning about how the Foreign direct investment (FDI) levels maybe relooked at, anything that looks appealing right now?

 

A: Even if those reforms would take place they are more of a long-term nature. In the immediate short-term to medium-term, these companies will have to deal with perhaps lower ad spends. As it is, the IPOs have dried up and the market could have extend ad spends going down. That was a big source of revenue for a lot of media companies. On the print media side, they are being hampered by higher newsprint costs. At the same time overall cost for these companies also are going up. So, we should look forward to maybe a tepid to disappointing results from the media company for the June and September quarter. Such opportunities, which do arise in terms of spikes coming on account of some action on the part of the government could be opportunities to go slightly underweight in the sector.

 

Q: What is your broad sense on the market now? Do you think this painful period will get over in three-four months or are you getting a bad lurking feeling that we are in for slightly longer haul?

 

A: We are in for a slightly longer haul. Even if the oil prices tend to cool off by about USD 10-15 per barrel or so, we are still in a bit of a mess as far as the oil policy and our fiscal situation is concerned. Any kind of a meaningful rally or huge gush of funds coming in from overseas investors is likely only in the next year, when there is more clarity on the political front. Maybe we will have a new government in place, which is able to deal with several problems which we are facing now, right from subsidy issues to raising administered prices for key commodities, dealing with high interest rates and high inflation. So, there are lots of challenges for the government and unfortunately they are at a period where no tough decisions can be taken, given that elections are less than a year away.

 

 

 

Q: Is there still enough value you feel or enough upside for those defensives we are talking about pharmaceuticals, IT etc?

 

A: There is value but the question is that these companies will not get a high Price/Earning (P/E) multiple and that is the real problem in our markets. It is not so much earnings as much as it is the P/E multiples. Those could compare even from these levels because of higher interest rates and technical aspect such as flow of money out of the country. So, this is something, which needs to be understood more than anything else.

 

The defensives look good but a lot of them have already moved up and are fairly priced. So, it is more like buying into these stocks at corrections. A better strategy would be to gradually shift the entire portfolio from the non-defensives into the defensives, a task more difficult done than actually said. Keeping that in mind, investors are better off if they are prepared for the worst. If you are looking at least six-seven months to a year kind of a bearish trend for our markets then every such decline will not make them panic and if you do panic, mistakes are made. So, that is the kind of mental framework which investors should be trying to get themselves into and perhaps good idea is not to at least put fresh savings in the market and keep that money for times when actually the environment seems to be improving going forward.

 

 

Q: In a short while from now we are going to hit earnings again, are you getting a bad feeling in the pit of your stomach on what might happen or you think we will get away with this quarter’s earnings as well with more green than red?

 

A: We have seen the advance/tax numbers, which have come for corporate India, and those are quite robust. Same time our interactions with the management do not suggest at least that this quarter would be a bit of a disappointment. We could see a few positive surprises in this quarter on account of the rupee depreciating. So, there is not much concern on that front. Reiterate that it is the P/Es, which is causing more of a pain at this point of time.

 

Disclosures:

 

It is safe to assume that my clients & I may have an investment interest in the stocks/sectors discussed.

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