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Look at IT, FMCG, pharma cos now: Rel Money

Published on Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 10:37 , Updated at Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:37
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Sudeep Bandopadhyay, Director and CEO, Reliance Money has said that the Reserve Bank of India or the RBI may take further action if inflation hits 13% going forward. Retail investors have not panicked yet and the SIP flow continues, he said. The market for margin and IPO funding has dried up, he added.

 

He feels that the High Networth Individuals or the HNIs are cautious and are staying away from the market right now. According to Bandopadhyay, select stocks in FMCG and pharma look attractive. Lots of promoters are using the market fall to up their stake in companies, he added.

 

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18’s exclusive interview with Sudeep Bandhopadhyay:

Q: What is your prognosis now for the next quarter or so for this market?

A: We have been talking about and we need to continue talking about oil and inflation. These are the two critical factors, which are driving the markets all over the world. If oil starts coming down or at least show signs of coming down, market will take it as a positive cue. In Indian markets, the inflation plays a very key role. Today there is a lot of nervousness going to be there towards the later half of the day once the inflation number comes out and it will probably be very close to 12%. Once that happens there would be some amount of nervousness and over the next few weeks if we see inflation climbing to around 13%, which is the kind of consensus emerging as of now, Reserve Bank of India (RBI) probably will need to come and take further action in terms of hiking either the benchmark rates or CRR or maybe both. If that happens again there would be some amount of effect on the markets, real estate, banking, capital goods, automobile all these sectors would be under significant pressure.

If you really look at it, probably the sectors, which will withstand this will be the IT because rupee has been appreciating and they would be benefiting from that. FMCG and pharma also to an extent. These are the sectors which one can look at this stage. Other than that markets would continue to remain under pressure for the next quarter.

Q: How do you gauge retail sentiment at Reliance Money right now?

A: This is something very interesting. In fact we have not seen too much of deterioration in the sentiment as far as retail is concerned. Yes they are worried and concerned and they are also watching the market just like all of us but they have not flooded the market nor have they panicked, which is a very good sign. If you look at the mutual fund numbers, assets under management during the month of June after a long time this has come down. But the component that has brought it down is actually the withdrawals from the liquid funds that is primarily on account of withdrawals by banks and large institutions who have other use of money and who needed to pay advance tax and withdrew money. Retail has not deserted the capital market in mass - Systematic Investment Plans (SIPs) through which retail has been investing in market are continuing and there is a regular flow. In fact, very surprisingly during the last few days we are getting lots and lots of inquiries from investors asking whether we should start buying now or maybe we will wait little longer, very positive sign-they are actually standing at the door. They want some cue before they jump into the market.

Q:  What is it that you are advising for them to do then, especially for some of the midcap positions they might hold? 

A: Without getting into the midcap specific, we have been telling investors who have at least ‘more than one-year time horizon’ in mind, to start buying. These markets are off their peak by about 40%. Now you cannot time the market. You need to be in the market for a time. So we are advising them probably there is no better time to get into the market if you have more than one-year time horizon in mind.  

Q: What is the sense you get from the HNI fraternity? How are they approaching it now? 

A: We have seen that the market for margin funding, IPO funding and any kind of leveraged market operations have dried down completely. Nobody is willing to take borrowed money for investing in the market. As far as HNIs are concerned who are investing heavily in the market, either their own funds or through leveraged funding are staying away to a great extent from the market.  

The guys who have been traditionally traders taking intra-day positions or short positions or positions in Nifty have been active till recently, taking maybe a call that the markets would come down and trying to make money. But they also have burnt their fingers in a big way during the recent last month and they are very cautious now. The HNIs are very cautious, the super HNIs who own companies or have taken some listed companies are looking at opportunities of increasing stake in those companies, probably taking this as an opportunity for value buying in the companies they hold shares.  

Q: Do you see a lot of people more and more inclined towards the options market because options volumes have gone up quite significantly, is it that people at Reliance Money are looking at that market to either cut risk or to hedge positions or both? 

A: It is very surprising and in the markets we always used to wonder why people are not interested in options. The markets in India were completely skewed towards futures and there was hardly any option-trading happening. During the recent few weeks we have been seeing significant interest coming back in options and they do not want to take the total exposure, they only want to test the waters and probably there is no better way than to take options. 

Q: Aside from IT, what else are you most bullish about right now and are you recommending for clients to get into as an exposure? 

A: One has to look at few defensive sectors, which are traditionally defensive like FMCG, pharma and all that looks attractive. But one needs to be very careful; you just cannot blindly buy into a sector. You need to study that particular company - how it is performing whether it is earning something from international markets, which international markets they have exposure to, maybe what are the raw materials they are using, whether there is an inflationary pressure or cost push effect on the raw materials the company has been using? So one cannot probably take a very general view of any particular sector but the opportunities are there in these sectors and some of the sectors, which are not probably in the limelight in a big way like the companies which provide tankers or they are in ship building or companies maybe which are involved in some kind of activity, which is related to oil drilling or offshore rigs. There are opportunities in these companies.  

Q: Do you see any selling coming in from promoters of companies, mid-size and small-size companies who might have either got or borrowed against their own stock or are in some kind of margin difficulties?

A: Not really. In fact we have been seeing the other way round, lots of promoters have been trying to increase their stake in their companies taking the opportunity of the market fall. There maybe stray cases because somebody has borrowed funds for hiking his stake earlier in the year and maybe in difficulty but those would be stray cases.

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