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Crude may hit $123/bbl if $130/bbl breaks: Comm Warrants

Published on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:00 , Updated at Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:00
Source : CNBC-TV18

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Peter McGuire, MD of Commodity Warrants Australia, said crude prices will stay high given the dollar weakness and gold strength.

McGuire remains bullish on gold, where he sees more upside.

He said if crude breaks below USD 130 per barrel, it could go down to USD 123-124 per barrel. But crude may at best drop to a bit below USD 130, but bounce back to USD 145 per barrel.

Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with Peter McGuire:

 

Q: Should equity market player starts celebrating that crude is cooling off or is it too premature to do that?

 

A: I think it is a little bit premature. Let us just be realistic with what happened over the last couple of trading sessions. It certainly is off its USD 147 per barrel peak. But when we think about what has happened over the last six weeks, it has started from the start of June all the way from the USD 127-128 per barrel to USD 148 per barrel and it is quite normal. It tested those highs and then we saw correction back down and then it tested them again and now there’s a correction back down.

 

We have had issues as far as inflation in concerned. There are very high inflation numbers out of the rest of the world. The US dollar is showing some weakness. We have seen a rise in gold. The oil prices will remain high in long-term. We have just got to live with that.

 

Q: Would you term what you have seen up until now as a correction in crude prices? How would funds approach this? Do you think it is a good opportunity to get back in or do you think people are getting a bit nervous about crude and how volatile it has gotten?

 

A: Crude certainly is volatile. Over the last eighteen months it has gone up from USD 50 per barrel at the start of January 2007 to nearly USD 150 per barrel in the last couple of weeks. Gold price saw a major correction. A lot of the hedge funds and a lot of the big traders moved into energy. It has been a wonderful trade over the last couple of months and now it there is a correction. Let us see where the US stock market moves over the next couple of days. If it does move northwards then I think crude oil will probably stay at that USD 130-135 per barrel level or might go a little bit lower. But in the longer-term, with geopolitical and hurricanes, I would not be surprised to see crude back up to USD 145 per barrel very shortly.

 

 

Q: What is the limit below which you would reconsider this view? What is the base you think crude can cool down to in this fall and still remain in a bull market?

A: We are bullish at the moment. We would have to look at closing those positions if it got under USD 130-131 per barrel over the next couple of days. If it certainly moves through that sort of resistance level then we may see it at USD 123-124 per barrel. But it is very difficult to forecast. If we look at the fundamentals and the technicals, then one needs to assess and try and make some value judgment about where they see opportunity over the next 7-10 days.

 

We remain bullish but we are conscious that it has corrected and we will just have to sit on the sidelines to see what’s happening. Time will tell where the trend takes us.

 

 

Q: Some global equity watchers have been making the point that the oil related stocks are not doing that well, there has been profit booking on them. How correlated are the two you think- Is that all a lead indicator of what happens with crude prices and commodities per se?

A: They are related, I am not sure they are necessarily joined at the shoulder and the intent of their next step. Demand has gone down In the US but that other countries and other regions are absorbing demand. Asia is absorbing while America is seeing a bit of a downturn there that is the first step.

 

Oil companies have shown wonderful profits over the last couple of years. These companies’ P/E ratios and dividends will probably have a bit of a breather. Markets go up and down. I am sure they (oil stocks) will resume their upward trend as soon as oil takes off again.

 

Q: What is the outlook on gold? It has been stronger and more resilient than crude. Do you think it is headed higher from here?

 

A: We are still bullish on gold. It had an enormous upmove over the last couple of weeks. From a high of USD 800 per ounce it went up to nearly USD 980 per ounce. Gold is seeing a bit of a respite at the moment.

 

Over the last couple of years, there has been quite a major fall in the US dollar. There is going to be a flight to safety with inflation taking off. I am pretty sure gold would attract those dollars. A lot of markets are reeling from the all time highs of the last six months. Inflation will soon start to bite; with higher cost for food and energy. One will see a return to platinum, silver and gold. There will be more upside in gold over the coming months.

 

Q: If crude breaks USD 130/bbl. What will be the next support level for that market?

 

A: We will have to look at a USD 124-123 per barrel sort of a number over the next two-three weeks. Many factors like where Iran sits, what is happening with Israel and that whole attention in the Middle East and worries about hurricanes that really starts towards the end of July -  that is when the season really commences all the way up to traditionally till the last couple of weeks of October to early November. So if those issues can come out at any time, then that could be just the catalyst that will drive crude higher. If there is limit to the hurricane issues and of course the Middle East settles down, then it might go back to USD 125-130 per barrel level. It is going to be interesting couple of weeks. 

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