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24 Nov 2009 05:33

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : tara23
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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crash course or "C" rash course?...

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : pitquote

all learned after substantial loss which can be called as a fees for a CRASH COURSE- Crash??????????? WHEN EVER THE MARKET CRASH AND WE LOOSE AND LEARN FROM EVERY CRASH

Cheers bathula

24 Nov 2009 04:10

? Interim Dividend

Money Matters

Posted by : Barat
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 109.00 ( -1.71 % )
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Yep got it credit.
cheers
Barat...

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? Interim Dividend

Posted by : vikasbargale

Hi, did anybody receive the 10% interim dividend by Money Matters Financial Services?

24 Nov 2009 04:10

BSE Announcements on Teledata Info

Teledata Info

Posted by : pitquote
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 6.09 ( -3.94 % )
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donot worry.

if there is ten paisa increase for two days

every one will come out with imaginary charts, fundamental analysis, long term holdings and call

TELEDATA IS A BANYAN TREE

But the way it goes- IT WILL REMOVE EVEN YOUR BANIYAN ...

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BSE Announcements on Teledata Info

Posted by : bababull

end of teledata. Sob! Finito! Thats the end! Climax! Swindler himself swindled :( . Where are the bulls, ramge, sbalu, moron, etc. All exited conveniently earlier.

24 Nov 2009 04:02

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : pitquote
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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all learned after substantial loss which can be called as a fees for a CRASH COURSE- Crash??????????? WHEN EVER THE MARKET CRASH AND WE LOOSE AND LEARN FROM EVERY CRASH

Cheers bathula...

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : bathulavb

Dear PQ

I like your last statement , don`t invest with borrowed money and don`t pledge the shares.

24 Nov 2009 02:58

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : bathulavb
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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Addressed to  pitquote

Dear PQ

I like your last statement , don`t invest with borrowed money and don`t pledge the shares....

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : pitquote

please note the following

1. Your entry price is around 400.00

NOW I AM NOT SURE OF YOUR FINANCIAL STRENGTH:

ANY WAY: I ASSUME THAT YOU HAVE AROUND THREE LAKHS TO SPARE TO RECOVER YOUR LOSS OR SAY TO BOOK SOME PROFIT.

YOU CAN RIGHT NOW ENTER AT 275.00 WITH ONE LAKH AND WAIT FOR FURTHER DOWN TURN IF ANY
(IF GOES DOWN BY TEN PERCENT- AGAIN PUMP IN ANOTYHER ONE LAKH)

AGAIN WAIT FOR NEXT TEN PERCENT DOWN TURN: DO AS ABOVE.

I am sure you will be able to catch the bottom

THE ABOVE PRINCIPLE IS APPLICABLE ONLY FOR REPUTED COMPANY LIKE BHARTI- RELIANCE- ACC- TATA GROUP

do not venture in to risky companies

NOW ANY THING YOU DECIDE: PLEASE DO NOT REFER THIS MESSAGE

ANY THING YOU DECIDE IS YOUR DECISION.

SO EXTEND UNDUE CAUTION

LAST BUT VERY IMPORTANT: I AM SURE THE MONEY YOU ARE GOING TO USE FOR AVERAGING IS YOUR MONEY ( Imean not borrowed money) nor pledge of your shares

24 Nov 2009 02:48

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : bathulavb
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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tara23

I sent you a personal message ...

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : tara23

thanks for the compliment.

24 Nov 2009 02:48

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : bathulavb
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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tara23

I sent you a personal message ...

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : tara23

thanks for the compliment.

24 Nov 2009 02:48

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : bathulavb
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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tara23

I sent you a personal message ...

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : tara23

thanks for the compliment.

24 Nov 2009 02:43

Cals News

Cals Refineries

Posted by : ranan
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 0.53 ( -3.64 % )
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Icici technical analysys showin that cals will be reaching 0.01-0.06 rs.

Price Bars | Candlesticks | Line | Mountain


You may find additional events by using the Historical Technical Event® Lookup.



View Event Date Event Opportunity Type Close at Event Target Price Range
Nov 23, 2009 Descending Continuation Triangle Long-Term Bearish 0.53 0.01 - 0.06
...

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Cals News

Posted by : SM_1

Hello Bist,

I have also read this news and it looks good for CALL investors.

24 Nov 2009 02:40

A RIL spokesperson says the firm has not violated any regulations

Reliance

Posted by : akkbatra
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 2195.50 ( 3.31 % ), NSE: Rs. 2194.95 ( 3.37 % )
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bhusbhac,
its not october matter. its april matter. many rpl holders had complained en-mass about 4% rpl stake sell at by mukesh & who should know better than you great 24 by 7 chemical locha that mukesh like true son of dhirubhai and elder brother of that crook anil, merged it with ril & made two more kills.. एक तीर से दो शिकार .. on one hand he pacified rpl share holders with bonus lollypop & on other buried huge rpl forex losses under merger carpet. but its settled now. u dont worry. be blind as always....

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A RIL spokesperson says the firm has not violated any regulations

Posted by : bhusbhac

Strange this October matter was also propogated on Livemint? Has anything fresh happened or about to happen and some persons have got hold of some advance information?

To me it sounds far fetched since this sale has been duly recorded in books of RIL. Cannot understand promoters risking all of RIL for such a small amount which resulted in a small profit of a few hundred crores out of a transaction of Rs 4000 crores.

Could be mistake or miinterpretation somewhere. Well well one more dispute in hand to play with this stock. I think that since this matter was raised in Parliament it would more likely be a cleaning exercise.

24 Nov 2009 02:39

A RIL spokesperson says the firm has not violated any regulations

Reliance

Posted by : akkbatra
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 2195.50 ( 3.31 % ), NSE: Rs. 2194.95 ( 3.37 % )
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bhusbhac,
its not october matter. its april matter. many rpl holders had complained en-mass about 4% rpl stake sell at by mukesh & who should know better than you great 27 by 7 chemical locha that mukesh like true son of dhirubhai and elder brother of that crook anil, merged it with ril & made two more kills.. एक तीर से दो शिकार .. on one hand he pacified rpl share holders with bonus lollypop & on other buried huge rpl forex losses under merger carpet. but its settled now. u dont worry. be blind as always....

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A RIL spokesperson says the firm has not violated any regulations

Posted by : bhusbhac

Strange this October matter was also propogated on Livemint? Has anything fresh happened or about to happen and some persons have got hold of some advance information?

To me it sounds far fetched since this sale has been duly recorded in books of RIL. Cannot understand promoters risking all of RIL for such a small amount which resulted in a small profit of a few hundred crores out of a transaction of Rs 4000 crores.

Could be mistake or miinterpretation somewhere. Well well one more dispute in hand to play with this stock. I think that since this matter was raised in Parliament it would more likely be a cleaning exercise.

24 Nov 2009 02:25

What is Bharti intrinsic value?

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : bathulavb
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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I am posting this message to understand about Bharti`s intrinsic value

Assumptions:

1. Telecom sector will also grow at the rate 6% yearly compound ( worst picture) along with India growth story for the next 10 years.

2. Bharti 2009 full year profit: 7743 cr

Due to price wars assume Bharti profit will go down by 33% then 2010 profit will be 7743*2/3 = 5162 crores

3. From 2010 onwards Bharti will grow by 6% with Rs 5162 cr net profit as base for next 10 years.

4. Based on future cash flow 6% growth and 9% discount rate ( Prevailing bank rate in India) Bharti is worth for 146917 crores , each share intrinsic value is Rs 387.( 146917/379.68)


I am not suggesting buying or any prediction how much it will go down further. Investors will make money by buying any class of asset less than its intrinsic value, not by selling. If we are able to buy at deeper discount, then your profits will be multifold.

By buying at deep discount to its intrinsic value, your risk is low and your capital is protected. Nobody knows where the real bottom is. So make your own calculations and invest based on your comfort level.


I am a real long term investor (not when price goes down) and this method is working for me since 20 years. What I do , when the price is less than 30% of intrinsic value start accumulating in small quantities.

Intrinisic Value
Growth Rate 6% Discount Rate 9%
GR % 6
Ave Pro 5162.00
1 5471.72 0.9174 5019.76
2 5800.02 0.8417 4881.88
3 6148.02 0.7722 4747.50
4 6516.91 0.7084 4616.58
5 6907.92 0.6499 4489.46
6 7322.40 0.5963 4366.34
7 7761.74 0.5470 4245.67
8 8227.44 0.5019 4129.35
9 8721.09 0.4604 4015.19
10 9244.36 0.4224 3904.82
44416.55
242664.34 0.4224 102501.42
146917.97

...

24 Nov 2009 02:24

Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Bharti Airtel

Posted by : tara23
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 275.80 ( -4.48 % ), NSE: Rs. 275.25 ( -4.68 % )
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thanks for the compliment....

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Bharti airtel near term range could be 180-270....

Posted by : sd3

How can sm1 be so short and so descriptive at the same time ...

U make me wonder madam ..

I admire !

sd3..

24 Nov 2009 01:57

OUR AGRI MINISTER VIEW

Bajaj Hind

Posted by : abhaytiw
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 202.00 ( -2.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 202.20 ( -2.34 % )
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“Certain sections were pressing for complete withdrawal of the sugarcane ordinance, which would have resulted in a windfall of Rs. 14,000 crore for the sugar mills at the cost of the Central exchequer. Who were they helping? Certainly not the farmers,” he said.
The government had, through the ordinance, brought in a Validation Act that said the calculation of levy sugar price to be paid to millers by the Centre will be based on the minimum price and therefore, the court order based on SAP was negated, saving the government a burden of Rs 14,000 crore. However, by deleting 3B from the Sugarcane Control (Amendment) Order, 2009 and restoring the SAP, the financial burden on the Centre for payment of levy price to millers on the basis of SAP for future years may stand.
“The Bill, which we were thinking of introducing and getting cleared, was to protect the interest of the farmers vis-À-vis the millers. The Fair and Remunerative Price [FRP] is a benchmark price. It is the minimum that millers have to pay,” Mr. Pawar said.
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24 Nov 2009 01:46
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320 is the 1st target .. hold and buy if can ... whoever takes over its positive for the Indian Co .... dont worry just buy ...

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what to do

Posted by : seemraj9

having 100 shares of areva @ 325. whether to hold or get rid of it ?

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