BlackBhai, SamBhai , PatienceBhai & the gang of MMB, :) Ek cheez humesha yaad rakho ki Jab Pranky prediction karta hain toh woh EK RAM-BAN ki tarah seedhein nishaane par hee lagta hain...... Maine keh diya , Bas keh diya... it *HAS* to come true..... Now this way I think my 2011 mkt-prediction wud also prove rito...... Euphoria , EUPHORIA & EUPHORIA around mid-2011..... Bulls MUST hold on to their HORSES & then fire full-cylinders up...... :) BTW ..... I guess it is one of the HIGHEST SCORES of IPL & EVEN in any T20 games it must be the 2nd or 3rd HIGHEST ever total & who else have done that:-- THE THE THEEEEEEE MUMBAI INDIANS...... Yessssss..!!!!!! ....

Key Investment Debates MORGAN STANLEY • Macro forecast: Politics are in good shape, in our view, and we believe this should allow reasonable policy momentum. The government is already moving forward with significant tax reforms, and we expect infrastructure spending to pick up pace in the coming 12 months, especially in electricity and roads. We forecast GDP growth of 6.7% and 8% in F2010 and F2011, respectively, ahead of consensus. More important, for the market, industrial growth is likely to accelerate over the coming 12 months. The acceleration in industrial growth is likely to close the output gap faster than current consensus expectations. Supply-side factors, including the availability of capital and its cost, favor a trough in capex and a recovery in the coming 12 months. We don’t believe this is yet in the price. • Earnings growth: We are now looking for 15% and 23% growth for the BSE Sensex constituents on aggregate in F2010 and 2011, respectively, compared consensus figures of 4% and 22%. Revenue growth seems to have bottomed, in line with our view that industrial growth is likely to accelerate in the coming months. The strength of the recovery could have upside in excess of our forecasts, depending on the execution of policy reforms. The corporate sector seems to have cut costs, and thus margins have improved sharply. The macro environment (i.e., higher consumer price inflation vs. wholesale price inflation after adjusting for food prices) favors a robust rebound in margins in the coming four quarters. We thing these three factors set the scene for strong earnings growth over the next 12 months. It is quite likely that broad market earnings growth will accelerate faster than the narrow market, as we saw in the previous cycle. We expect broad market earning growth to average 20% and 25% in F2010 and F2011, respectively. • Valuations: The market’s valuations do not currently appear attractive to us, although neither are they stretched. However, the prospects of earnings upgrades means that valuations could, in hindsight, turn out to be attractive. On our top-down estimates, the Sensex is trading at 17.5xand 14xF2010 and F2011 earnings, respectively. The 12months trailing P/E for the MSCI Index is at 30% premium to the emerging market multiple .At a 10-year bond yield of 7.6%, investors are realizing a risk premium at 6.4% which suggests that the market is attractive for long-term returns. However, at the margin, long bonds appear interesting especially from an ownership, supply, and valuation perspective. Returns from long bonds are likely to be constrained by rising domestic short yields, however, and, our-of-the-consensus view on US long bond yields. We think equities offer better returns than bonds. • Ownership, equity supply, and liquidity: FII ownership is coming off a 51/2 -year low. Rising equity supply could cause a problem for the market if it gets bunched up, as we saw recently. Excess liquidity in the system is likely to reduce as growth gains pace. Market behavior in the previous two tightening cycles has been mixed, and hence is inconclusive. • Sentiment: The market can no longer rely on depressed sentiment as a guide to better returns, in our view. Sentiment is mixed and suggests reluctant participation best illustrated by the neutral position of our proprietary market timing indicator. Some components of our proprietary composite sentiment indicator, notably momentum metrics and volatility measures, suggest that the market could sell off. We think market participants should keep an eye on breadth and trading turnover. ...

Ok So your god sent jesus first and then Momd! Any reason why god sent Momd after Jesus because he said many things that were quite opposite to Jesus... So did god make a mistake with Jesus and send Momd to correct them ?...

3) The Light of the Moon is is Reflected Light: Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light; (the Quran 25:61) The Science now tells us that the light of the moon is reflected light. The same truth was mentioned 1400 years before.. Again talk on talk about science; 4) The difference between the sun light and moon light 5) Sun Roation 6) The presence of interseller galactic materials 7) The expanding of universe 8) The existence of subautomic particles 9) The water cycle 10) Winds impregnate the clouds 11) Mountains are pegs 12) Mountains are firmly fixed 13) Barrier between sweet and salt water in ocean 14) Darkness in the depths of the ocean 15) Every living thig is made by water 16) Plants created in paris, male and female 17) Fruits created in pairs, male and female 18) Everything made in pairs 19) Animals and birds lives in community 20) The flight of birds 21) Blood circulation and production of milk 22) Man is created from Alaq A leech like substance 23) Man created from a drop emitted from between the back bone and ribs 24) Sex determination 25) Feotus Protected by three veils of darkness The scientific evidence of the Quran clearly proves its Divine Origin. No human could produced the book, 1400 ago. The Quran is truly a message from Allah, the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. It contains the same message of the Oneness of God, that was preached by all prophets, right from Adam, Moses, Jesus to Muhammad (peace be upon them). abu ----------------------------- Part 2 of 2 ...

Dear Supreet34, First prove me how it is God`s word? --- If is not God’s word, you could have seen many contradiction at stage of science and technology : Here the prove: According to the famous physicist and Nobel prize winner, Albert Einstien, ‘science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind’ 1) The Quran in challenging in Astronomy : Creation of the universe : The Big Bang Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (the Quran 21: 30) How could a book, which first appeared in the deserts of Arabia 1400 years ago, contain this profound scientific truth??? 2) The spherical shape of EARTH The following quranic verse regarding the alternation of day and night; Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and he merges Day into Night; that He has subjected the sun, and the moon (to his Law), each running its course for a term appointed; (the Quran 31:29) Merging here means that the night slowly an gradually changes to day and vice versa. This phenomenon can only take palce if the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat, there would have been a sudden cange from night to day and from day to night. Also the following verse to the spherical shape of the earth; He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night: (the Quran : 39:5) The earth is not exactly like a ball, but geo-spherical, i.e; it is flattened at the poles. And the earth, moreover, hath He made egg shaped (the Quran 79:30) Thus Quran correctly describe the shape of earth. ----------------------------- Part 1 of 2 ...

Again... Stop addressing me as Sir... Honestly i started referring to when Abu sent the link and after reading just a few lines understand why islam is all fked up... Cheers......

Hmmm... 24:02 from abu`s site... 2. The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. QuestionL Why can`t allah punish himself ? That way even Osama Bin Laden will be forced to sit quiet! LOL !...

hey fanatic,

long before the koran there was immense knowledge of the cosmos including that the earth was not flat and that earth revolves around the sun etc etc egyptian, and eastern science were aware of this much before the quoran or the westerners did .

Moon giving light and moon giving reflected light are not one and the same. mountains as pegs has been explained separately to show ignorance, as also invisible pillars supporting the sky.

IF THE KORAN IS SO FAR FORWARD why do ur muslim scientists not study it in depth and announce IN ADVANCE what other scientific and medical miracles it contains INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES AND TRYING TO FIT THE KORAN VERSES TO SUCH DISCOVERIES TO FOOL THE ILLITERATE MUSLIM MASSES.

DO ANNOUNCE MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC FACTS HIDDEN IN THE KORAN WELL IN ADVANCE but excluding the facts already known to egyptian and other eastern nations much before koran(thereby included in koran)

u will have a tough time to show even a single medical or scientific truth in the koran which was not already existing/known to eastern science/sages and copied/included therein. Deaf dumb and blind like u do deserve this barbaric/violent religion....

hey fanatic, u certainly qualify as deaf dumb and blind in ur belief but all that is channelised to violence against other faiths to make up for the deafness, dumbness and blindness...

By Mumin Salih

Recently, Muslims scholars started to falsely claim that the Quran foretold many scientific discoveries that were not known in its time. None of the Muslims’ claims stands scientific or logical analysis. One wonders how the Muslim scholars dare to make such claims despite the obvious contradiction between the Quran and science. The answer to this question is that Muslim scholars became alarmed during the last decades as an increasing number of ordinary Muslims started to learn modern science. To pre-empt any suspicion about the contradictions between the Quran and science, the Muslim scholars started to claim that the Quran actually was ahead of time in science but early Muslims didn’t understand it. The strategy of the Muslim scholars is deception, pure lies and word games. This article investigates only four of the most common claims that Muslims make about the Quran and science. It often escapes the minds of the Muslims that the existence of only one error in the Quran is a proof that the book is not divine and that Islam is a hoax.

1. Splitting the moon

The claim: according to the Quran, Mohammed made the moon to split into two halves and then glued them together. Fourteen hundreds years later, Nasa confirmed that splitting.

This extraordinary claim is based on verse Q.54:1 “The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder”. The verse describes an event that allegedly took place in Mecca when a few Meccan Arabs asked Mohammed to split the moon as a proof to them that he was a prophet. Mohammed simply made the moon split into two halves, one half on each side of the mountain Hira! However, this extraordinary cosmic event did not impress those Arabs who accused Mohammed of performing one of his magic tricks.

The irony is that the above myth was propagated by a Muslim scientist, more precisely a geologist, who was qualified in the UK! Dr. Zaghloul Al Najjar is an Egyptian who made a fortune from his appearances on Islamic TV channels. He is happy to turn his back to all that he learned at university and make the above false claim on Aljazeera television, the Islamists’ TV platform. For the sake of Allah, Dr. Al Najjar went one step further as he shamelessly lied to his audience and claimed that Nasa scientists have discovered that the moon was split into two halves and glued together!

Needles to say that Nasa never made that outstanding Islamic discovery but that doesn’t stop hundreds of Islamic websites from circulating the lie and publishing satellite images of the moon surface the that show grooves (which exist normally on the moon and many planets) which they claim were formed as a result of that split fourteen hundreds years ago! ...

All the Quran did was to mention the word ‘moosi-oon’ and the Muslims’ imagination went sky high. In the middle of this euphoria they did notice the Quran’s blunders when it described the sky as a roof built supported by invisible pillars to stop it from falling on the Earth.

3. The mountains

The claim: the Quran described accurately the formation and functions of mountains

The Muslim scholars claim that the Quran described the roots of the mountains that go deep into the earth’s crust, which is a scientific fact. In support of this claim, the Muslim scholars refer to this verse:

Q.78: 7. “and the mountains as pegs (awtad)”

If you happen to read an article about this subject you would be amazed at the length of the article and the included scientific references and diagrams, which is a common pattern that is repeated whenever Muslims claim a scientific miracle. The Muslim scholars’ strategy is to overwhelm the reader with irrelevant scientific information to give the impression that the Quran speaks of real science.

The Muslims’ scholars claim that the Quran deliberately used the Arabic word ‘awtad’ because they are partially inserted into the ground, exactly like the mountains.

The fact is that Mohammed had no clue about the mountains roots or what goes under the surface, which is why he twice described the pyramids as awtad, even though they had no resemblance to the mountains’ structure.
Q.38:12. ..and the Pharaoh, of the pegs, Q.89: 10. and with Pharaoh, of the pegs.

The Muslims’ scholars also claim that it is a scientific fact that the mountains function is to stabilize the earth, which is purely a scientific myth.

Mohammed’s knowledge was just a regurgitation of the circulating myths in the seventh century Arabia. He believed that the earth was a flat surface floating on water, therefore it was necessary for Allah to create the mountains to stabilize it. According to the Quran, the mountains were not formed as a result of continental collisions but were dropped from above after the earth’s creation:

Q.16:15. And He dropped on the earth mountains, lest it should shake with you.

The Arabic word ‘alka’, used in the above verse, has no other meaning but ‘to drop or throw something from above’. This translation, which is the only accurate one, has been deliberately avoided by the Muslim scholars in their attempt to conceal the Quranic blunders.

After dropping the mountains on the earth, Allah proceeded to fix them firmly in position in order they perform their function well:
Q.79: 32. And the mountains hath He firmly fixed Q.88: 19. And at the Mountains, how they are fixed firm If that is science, what is ignorance?...

dear callahan,

no use talk something, you have **** to talk the contradiction or scientific error in quran...

no use just talking and making fool, just give contradiction or scientific error..

abu...

THERE CANNOT BE A BIGGER MORON THAN U. I gave u not one but many and also an entire thread of foolish claims attributed to koran. IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN UR LIFETIME TO PROVE THE FALSE CLAIMS MADE IN THE NAME OF THE KORAN. go to faithfreedomdotorg

useless dumb fanatic...

Like other nations in ancient times, the Arabs first encounter with iron was through the iron rich meteorites. They were unaware of the fact that iron is abundant in earth and had no clue about the technology required to extract it. The divine black stone at the side of ‘kaaba’ is believed to have come from an iron rich meteorite that hit the earth centuries before Islam. The black stone was sacred to the Arabs long before Islam and is still sacred to them today. The legendry Arab poet Antara Ibn Shaddad had a sword that is claimed to have come from a metal from the sky. Indeed all the ancient nations called iron the metal of the sky.

This Islamic claim about iron is propagated by Zaghlul Al Najjar through Aljazeera channel. Dr. Najjar is not confused or mistaken but he is a liar who relies on the audience’s trust to believe whatever he says without scrutiny. Al Najjar claims that all iron on earth came from the sky, which is a lie. He claims that the atomic weight of iron (57) equals to the number of surat AlHadid, which is a lie because the atomic weight of iron in its most common form is 56. He also claims that the atomic number of iron is 26 which is the number of the above verse in surat Alhadid, which is another lie because the verse is number 25. Al Najjar gets round this problem by counting the bismillah as a verse to make the numbers add up!

It is amazing how far Dr. Al Najjar was prepared to go to make his claim. He must have read the verse thousands of times but he didn’t notice the blunder at the end of the verse.

Q. 57: 25“..that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles..”.

According to this part of the verse, Allah didn’t know which men will help him and his apostles!

Allah, the all knowing, actually didn’t know!...

Solid arguments don’t exist in Islamolandia swamp. Jews come up with theories such as General Relativity and Muslim? Oh well, Muslims scramble to find something in the Quran to say Muhammad said it first. This is the sympthom of the inferiority complex affecting the entire ummah who have never acheived anything and cling to their religion for thier self esteem. Little they know that it is their relgion that keeps them ignorant and in such a state of misery. People are the same everywhere. Humans are one race. There is no superior or inferior race. There is no reason for Muslims to be the most wreched people of the world. The only reason they are, is because of Islam. It is funny that despite all these scientific miracles stated in the Quran not a single Muslim has been able to decipher them to win a Nobel Prize in science. They only find them when a kafir makes a new scientific discovery, and then realize they were wrong when another kafir disproves the first kafir’s theory. Then they try to find another verse to prove Muhammad said it first.

Who said Islam is a rigid religion? While Bin Baaz, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia discovers that the Earth is flat by reading the Quran, Dr. Elnaby discovers the speed of light in the same book. If America is the land of opportunities, Islam is the religion of possibilities. Anything is possible. You can interpret the obtuse book of Quran in any way you like. Just use your imagination and twist the facts a little and see how many discoveries you can make. This book allows you to interpret it in any way you like. Isn’t that a miracle? Silly me, I thought a book of guidance must be a "clear book" (5:15) "easy to understand" (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40) "explained in detail" (6:114) "conveyed clearly" (5:16, 10:15) ... and with "no doubt" in it (2:2)


BY ALI SINA...

hey fanatic,

long before the koran there was immense knowledge of the cosmos including that the earth was not flat and that earth revolves around the sun etc etc egyptian, and eastern science were aware of this much before the quoran or the westerners did .

Moon giving light and moon giving reflected light are not one and the same. mountains as pegs has been explained separately to show ignorance, as also invisible pillars supporting the sky.

IF THE KORAN IS SO FAR FORWARD why do ur muslim scientists not study it in depth and announce IN ADVANCE what other scientific and medical miracles it contains INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES AND TRYING TO FIT THE KORAN VERSES TO SUCH DISCOVERIES TO FOOL THE ILLITERATE MUSLIM MASSES.

DO ANNOUNCE MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC FACTS HIDDEN IN THE KORAN WELL IN ADVANCE but excluding the facts already known to egyptian and other eastern nations much before koran(thereby included in koran)

u will have a tough time to show even a single medical or scientific truth in the koran which was not already existing/known to eastern science/sages and copied/included therein. Deaf dumb and blind like u do deserve this barbaric/violent religion....

ROFL must be drawing world maps on their paradisical beds by staining it....

While i do agree that caring for ur teeth is vital , there is more to it than that alone which determines loss of teeth early or late. Your inner constitution i.e. the ability of ur body to absorb the correct nutrients required for the teeth, which will make ur enamel and teeth in general withstand the attack of bacteria. Calcium carbonicum is one as also calcarea phos and calcarea fluoride but all internally and not mere addition to the tooth paste. These are required in homeopathic doses and not allopathic. One would be surprised to note that a single amla contains more calcium than a calcium sandoz bottle and more imp in natural form.

cheers....

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