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Treasury, as part of swift implementation of bailout, issues interim rules on hiring of money managers and conflicts of interest....
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One begger adds another beggar
Posted by :
sambala
Citigroup discloses complaint against Wachovia, Wells Fargo, seeks more than $60 billion in damages.
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Watch Fuld getting ragged (rapped? raped?!!) by the US lawmakers :-)...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear fmcgbites,
Look at Gold market now, probably you will understand the GAME better!
Those TOM and HARRY were not BUYing all stocks when market was around 6000.
Those TOM and HARRY have hoarded those stocks when market was around 2000-3000 level. Then they PUMP the market to higher level knowing fully well about sub prime crisis in Apr 2007. :):)
That is one of the favourite way of making MONEY... PUMP and DUMP!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Citigroup discloses complaint against Wachovia, Wells Fargo, seeks more than $60 billion in damages.
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One begger adds another beggar
Posted by : sambala
Citi: Wells Fargo blocked from buying Wachovia
NEW YORK - The fight over control of Wachovia intensified Saturday, as a judge temporarily agreed to block the sale of the bank by Wells Fargo, Citigroup announced in a news release
State Supreme Court Justice Charles Ramos issued the order blocking the sale of Wachovia Corp., which Wells Fargo & Co. had agreed to purchase in a $14.8 billion deal.
Citigroup Inc. accused Wells Fargo of trying to cut off its earlier takeover offer of Wachovia`s banking operations for $2.1 billion in a deal struck with the assistance of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. On Friday, four days after that deal was struck, Wells Fargo said it was buying Wachovia.
The litigation pits two of the largest remaining financial institutions against one another as the ongoing credit crisis leads the federal government to arrange marriages and sales among banking entities.
Wells Fargo, Wachovia and Citigroup did not immediately respond to messages left late Saturday seeking comment about the temporary order blocking the sale.
The FDIC said Friday that it "stands behind its previously announced agreement with Citigroup." It also said it would review all proposals and work with regulators of all three institutions to resolve the tug-of-war.
Citigroup says it has an exclusivity agreement that bars Wachovia from talking with other potential buyers. Its shares fell sharply after the surprise announcement of the Wells Fargo-Wachovia agreement.
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Dear Osteoporous,
Just guessing.. you need to have the contract notes... Each FnO contract you enter into is unquely identified by the NSE! So i guess some redress should be possible.. If not with NSE, in the court of law.
Regards,...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
osteoporous
Dear raj_tibs
I have a query on the long contracts. In the present financial turmoil 3 years is quite a long time. What happens if the brokerage firm through which I bought a 3 yr long option does not survive? How are the investor s interest protected in such a hypothetical (but probable) case? Could you throw some light?
Thanks & regards.
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Dear BSR,
Quote:
Latest BS views say Limited Downside and Sharp Upside Movements! :)
Let us hope better sense prevails among those Big Players!
Unquote:
If the BS views are saying limited downside and sharp movements means That markets will bedoing the opposite ... is that correct..?
...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : BullSheetRules
Dear fmcgbites,
Latest BS views say Limited Downside and Sharp Upside Movements! :)
Let us hope better sense prevails among those Big Players!
Firm Support for Nifty around 3450 just like 9800 currently for DOW!
Those FIIs just need to stop that MAD SELLing for one or two days to get those Swift Movements!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Hi shakti,
The day Nifty lifts 200 points and dow 300 points, I will
take it as a signal of new Bull race. That day, I will start
a new thread and close this one....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
shakal140
Yes, both targets achieved...close the thread
atleast now, pray the markets go up!!
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Dear Hsnmf,
My god, How come you made these losses, is it entirely in F & O ? or in Cash segment also..?...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
hsnmf
My losses since January 2008. I don`t know what to do......
(75,996.59) September
2,001.97 August
31,590.12 July
(102,509.70) June
(37,439.67) May
39,519.15 April
(68,353.29) March
(13,233.85) Feb.
(118,205.02) Jan.
(342,626.87)
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Dear raj_tibs
I have a query on the long contracts. In the present financial turmoil 3 years is quite a long time. What happens if the brokerage firm through which I bought a 3 yr long option does not survive? How are the investor s interest protected in such a hypothetical (but probable) case? Could you throw some light?
Thanks & regards....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : raj_tibs
BSR,
Just formulated my strategy if it falls further..
I have some sold 4300 puts (jun 2010) that are highly illiquid (sold long time back).
I think i will defend them.
So i am planning to pick 5 nifty stocks, and invest about 2-3 times my notional losses over the next few months (and use those shares as margin)...
Also hoping, that within 2 years, will get an opportunity to use the flip cash to 2 lots of futures strat...
What are your views on the stratgy (given that the puts i sold was a bad decision)
regards
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NOW SEBI chief is acting in haste...THE FM `s yes man -sebi chief and gov RBI are TAKING A DANGEROUS MOVE. again allowing inv thru P -note and hiking crr is not good idea. at least on one front we were heading in right direction- taming inflation slightly...that will again rise. WE need some very good economist like for gov REDDY and
PM manmohan sg to come togather leaving aside CHIDAMBRAM AND THE NEW GOV RBI who seem to hv little exp in these dire situation....
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CAPITAL PRESERVATION !!!
Posted by : ravipratap61
I have certain observations:
experts:do not time the mkt(WRONG)
FACT:time the market
experts: buy good company at any price(wrong)
FACT: even midcap at low price will give better return and even larsen,ABB,siemens,ril,sbi IF bought at 21000 will not give u any return in five years.
EXPERTS: invest in SIP(wrong)
fact : investments at low mkt will give u always far better return than SIP.
EXPERTS :invest for long term(wrong)
FACT: always get in at better valuaion and enter at low valuation and make money. THIS may happen in a year in a mnth or EVEN A DAY .
WHY WAIT FOR 2-3 YEAR WHEN U R CERTAIN OF PROFIT IN A DAY OR MONTH.
EXPERTS:buy good company and stick for 2-3 years( wrong)
FACT: scenerio changes so rapidly that in months industry outlook changes. real estate was hot now ice cold, IT was solid getting stone,
banks under danger...suddenly maruti and hero honda flying...so ride the wave and make money and get out quickly or u will be holding a dead chicken.
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Hi Pradesh,
Many thanks for your message. Unfortunately it is not possible
to give exact time scale of the given targets. Dow fell by full
41% in three months in October 1987. It also fell by 10% in 8
months in 2004 ( From February to October 2004 ) Incidentally
it fell to 9660 on 25 October 2004, the level where Dow is trying
to find support today.
I am working on a formula to find time span of corrections but
I think I will end up with two/three different values, one of
which will occur.
Thanks for your concern and compliments...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : pradesh
HLN,
Though very late, your magic figure of 3600 has become reality. It may not be a moment of rejoicing for thousands. Though I feel sad for them, please accept my appreciation for predicting the level which very few, including me, had believed. This success is truly yours.
I read that you are working on a formula to predict accurately the time factor also. I wish you all the success on that front as well.
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Dear fmcgbites,
Look at Gold market now, probably you will understand the GAME better!
Those TOM and HARRY were not BUYing all stocks when market was around 6000.
Those TOM and HARRY have hoarded those stocks when market was around 2000-3000 level. Then they PUMP the market to higher level knowing fully well about sub prime crisis in Apr 2007. :):)
That is one of the favourite way of making MONEY... PUMP and DUMP!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : fmcgbites
those TOM and HARRY were buying at 6000,they have to sell now at 50% price otherwise they will be forced to sell at 25% of price.
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Yes. timewise correction has to take place. Till that time investors will not return to the stock market. When HNIs start buying, that is the time to enter the market. I am convinced that every rise is an opportunity to exit. ...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : fmcgbites
bear market is going to end? so soon? it has not begin yet, this is just some healthy chop & correction. time wise pain and depression has yet to hit stock market.
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European shares in biggest one-day fall ever
Banks, miners lead stock slump across Europe...
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The End of Wall Street
Posted by : sambala
Ex-Lehman CEO faces grilling
Richard Fuld, former CEO of bankrupt Lehman, testifies before House panel probing what caused the firm`s collapse
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I have good qty of GSPL @48 , IFCI @39, Deccan Aviation @61. Do you suggest to average these now or shall I wait for lower levels ? I am willing to hold for long time. kindly suggest ...
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Paulson`s Poison & Antidote
Posted by : Kalidas
for tally
Profit is yours if you take it. Book the profit in scrips in which you are in money and buy back same scrips in violent correction.
If RBI eased CRR, it is good thing. They should reduce rates rather than reducing CRR - reducing CRR does not enlarge credit, as most banks in India are anticipating tight money conditions ahead in inter bank market.
You should remain long on Gas stocks like Indraprashtha Gas, GAIL, GSPL, Petronet, and State Owned Refineries, Buy LIC HSG FINANCE when it corrects more in violent crash. When there are no bids for such counters, is the time to buy them at 20% lower circuits
I am not bullish for RIL - as I had mentioned before, this stock is hyped up and its real value should not be above Rs 900. It has long way to go down - but do not listen to me. Others were telling me that it will never go down and see it is collapsing.
Not because of fundamentals, but the shares of RIL must have been pledged by the promoters for their various projects. If the share value go down, they will get margin calls and if they can not meet thousands of crores of margin calls, their shares will be simply sold off in the market. That will cause the market to fall also because of their index weighting
Kalidas, Hong Kong
6-10-2008
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Dear aahoo,
Market will never announce its crash!
I would be pretty sure that Those TOM and HARRY would be those FIIs and their BS agents in most cases! :) :)
Looking at various developments, I also think that bottom has arrived.
That 53% TA corrections is also over from those BS FIIs! They will continue for some time to keep that DEFTY values on similar values!
Since those FIIs are close to their SELLing, it is quite common to expect to hear about those BS rumours about crashes now! :)
Historically, Crash is done using very THIN volume! Just put massive SELL Order in the first five minutes before anyone can think of any BUYing! That makes good headlines everywhere!
Still, be cautious and careful!
If that MAD SELLing continues by FIIs, then we can expect DIRTY game going ahead else better days are ahead!
Looking at DOW, Market PLAYers will be under pressure to think about more steps to save those BIG GREEDY CATs! :)
Gud luk & happy investing! :)...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : aahoo
Dear BSR
All in the street are talking about market crash. Every TOM and HARRY is selling. To me it seems bottom have arrived. From here it is going to be different story. For a long time Indian market is tracking US market. It is time to concentrate on our own strength. Policy makers are also preparing the ground for stability. It is time to invest rather than looking for elsewhere for cues.
aahoo (the real bull)
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