DAI MANDHAN

u murder innocent people & u call that behaviour.....u pig stop posting messages to me.........

stop posting any messages to me you son of a pig.....that's the truth....

even if newly converted christians are a majority (I speak only as a follower), the CATHOLIC CHURCH cannot be handed over to hindus, atheists, etc......it is an internal working of our church & you should join it in order to put forth your stats. & arguments.....

so i would actualy not want any converts to Catholicism, if they are to rule our church & then we would be following the rituals of hindus, muslims, etc., we would lose our identity.

AGAIN I REITERATE THAT I HAD ONLY CONDEMNED THE GRUESOME MURDER OF OUR INNOCENT PEOPLE & THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP, THAT DID NOT RECEIVE THE HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT OF THE HINDU MAJORITY; if you are stating why i use sometimes brahmin, it is because i know that hindus of the lower levels have always been helpful & i would not want to hurt their sentiments, as i see where the problem lies and wish to identify it....or else if we blame hindus, the source of the problem is not identified & a solution will always evade us.

if the matter drifted away from the central theme it is because of thoughtless condemnations of my intentions & messages by other boarders & misunderstandings inevitably take place.

certain sects may take the literal meaning of certain texts, but then you have to believe in your own & attack all CHRISTIANS....

EVEN ON THIS BOARD SOME OF YOUR FUNDAMENTALISTS HAVE DENIGRATED OUR GOD, DUE TO THEIR OWN IGNORANCE, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN IT IN OUR STRIDE.

NOTE: EVEN THOUGH I HAVE CONCLUDED THIS THREAD ON 3 OR 4 OCCASIONS, YOU STILL CONTINUE TO DEMAND ANSWERS, WHICH IS MOST IRRITATING SINCE I HAVE TO REPLY TO SO MANY PEOPLE, GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS & MY RESPONSIBILITIES & MY DISINCLINATION TO DESTROY THE DECORUM & GOODWILL THAT I HOPE TO EXPERIENCE HEREIN - it will be taxing to most members who use this as a business site........

but why r u taking excessive interest in such statistics pertaining to our religion.....first of all there is no caste......the label of dalit christians itself surprises me.....apparently it has been deliberately continued in order to claim the statutory privileges available to dalits of hinduism, which our dalits are deprived of....clearly it is to raise them to the higher levels....

naturally dalits are new entrants & it would take awhile for them to integrate with the main family & gradually they would make their presence felt & would take over the administration.....it is my only hope & prayer that they would not discriminate against those who now are in a majority......but then we leave it in the HANDS OF GOD!

INJUSTICE IS EVERYWHERE & DALITS HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS & THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE TO TAKE UP THEIR CAUSE & WE HOPE THAT RESOLUTIONS WILL BE ARRIVED AT IN A NON-VIOLENT WAY......

i had wanted to comment specially on the label 'dalit'....& i conclude..........

this is one of the most humurous messages that i have read for a long, long time.... in fact, at any time in my life.....

for its presentation preceded by it\\`s painstaking effort, it definitely takes the cake!

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......and who is the WORD?........

i have already exited this thread...nevertheless....briefly...

CHRISTIANITY does not give validity/sanctity to untouchability, inequality, discrimination, etc. on any caste grounds (there is no caste, only communities-all equal) as brahminism enunciates....upper caste & lowest class.....

i dont disagree that there are isolated cases which you quote, which is because of the human weakness inherent in all cases without exception (meaning human weakness)......it is another human weakness that we quote the exception & apply it to the whole!......

FOR EVERY SUCH CASE THERE ARE MANY MORE CASES WHERE RIGHT ACTION PREVAILS, which are not taken into account.

every rule has an exception!......

the relevant quote would be: in christianity....\\\\...

the quote is"forgive them father for they know not what they do"... bhai correctly toh quote karo NIGHT OWL...

Q but why r u taking excessive interest in such statistics pertaining to our religion UQ Tell me why you are taking excessive interest in hindu affairs. In your earlier posts you were applauding the dk and dmk for beating the hindu gods with chappals in a procession you were calling brahmins in the most derogatory manner and advocating their murder (if you see a brahmin and snake kill the brahmin is what you said) You were advocating who should be priests in hindu temples. What makes you think only you have all the rights and others cannot even quote statistics given by dalit christians? I quoted all this to prove it to you of the existence of caste system in your religion that too since you called it a blatant lie. Elsewere you said you hate brahmins because of the injustice they have done to others. I am quoting below some excerpts from Minority Commission report of GOI dated 17th Jan, 2008 on status of Dalits in Muslim and Christian communities Q Lack of integration between the Syrian Christians and converts from lower castes is revealed both at the social as well as at the denominational levels. The old Christians are known as Syrian Christians whereas Harijan converts are known as Putu Christians (Neo-Christians), Chermar Christians, Pulaya Christians etc. During the course of the field work, it was found that only Syrian Christians were referred to as ‘Christians’, and Pulaya Christians were referred to as ‘Pulayas’ by all, including the Pulaya Christians themselves. The Pulaya Christians addressed the Syrian Christians by honorific titles such as Tampuran (Lord), Panikke (Master), whereas Syrian Christians added the suffix ‘Pulaya’ while addressing a Pulaya Christian. For example, a Thoma is called Thoma Pulayan, a Chacko as Chacko Pulayan, and so on, as is done in the case of Hindu Pulayas. In the presence of rich Syrian Christians, the Harijan Christians had to remove their head-dress. While speaking with their Syrian Christian masters, they had to keep their mouth closed with a hand. Pulaya Christians are not given food inside the house of a Syrian Christian or in a good dish, but only outside the house in some broken dish. After taking food, they have to wash it. UQ In the above case I dont see brahmin anywere. So who is oppressing whom? I dont expect any reply from you. But stop making sweeping statements without any basis and stop heaping abuses on others. You dont have the high moral ground to do that. Let he without sin cast the first stone says the bible. Certainly you are not qualified to cast the first stone. ...

Hi, It seems PIGS are very dear to you? You always call everybody Pigs? Did you learn it from your elders or from any other places of worship? Anyway the habit may do you harm in future. Hence keep this in mind....

Cdfd, Have u finished lunch? Kindly answer if a catholic converted to jeehovah witness on account of more money and better living conditions would u *forgive* it as a constitutional right, BUT my catholic neighbor dint pardon it, she reported them to the cops as nusiance factors in her area. The jeehova witness in their teachings have said this QuoteThe Trinity’s Early Origins The Bible tells of many gods and goddesses that people worshiped, including Ashtoreth, Milcom, Chemosh, and Molech. (1 Kings 11:1, 2, 5, 7) Even many people in the ancient nation of Israel once believed that Baal was the true God. So Jehovah’s prophet Elijah presented the challenge: “If Jehovah is the true God, go following him; but if Baal is, go following him.”—1 Kings 18:21. The worship of pagan gods grouped in threes, or triads, was also common before Jesus was born. “From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity,” observed historian Will Durant. In the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: “In Indian religion, e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of Brahma, Siva, and Visnu; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus.” So there are many gods. Did early Christians acknowledge this? And did they view Jesus as Almighty God? Will continue after cofee.. ...

You seem to be very angry All religions are good,none advice or preach violence There is no perfect Hindu,christian or a Muslim You said about murder,let me tell some thing happened in history During world war 2 the holocaust happened,millions of Jews killed The Pope at that point of time never condemned the happening He was silent,Even today people are debating world over,Why he was silent?His appeal could have saved thousands of lives And most Italians were Christians,Germans were Christians Serb Christians killed fellow Muslim Bosnian,What did the Serb churches do there? So the point is "My Religion is better than yours" is a failed logic Most Indians are connected by their DNA irrespective of his faith Hope i have not offended you with my message GV...

So u finally covered up ur inbox !!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha... ROFL......

Cdfd, I am the poorest person in my area, all my neighbors who are nonbrahmins and Hindus are richer than me. All stories from old books begin with THERE ONCE LIVED A POOR BRAHMIN. No brahmin poor or rich has reservation quota. All hindus have been allowed to do all things in the last 50 years of independence. My own friend's daughter a brahmin refused to cooking job but accepted a janitor's job in Forum Mall coz she gets paid more for just couple of hours. Now should brahmins give up even their right to oversee religious ceremonies?...