SENSEX can go to 18200 to 19000 this week or shortly in my view...

That was a good discussion I thought by all of us. Thanks everyone for chipping in. What I feel is, today and tomorrow would be dominated by bulls and then would come the bear attack. As for today, one can go long at the current level of 5070 with a stop 5050 for a target above 5100. Regards, Rudra...

can you post your views on JSL..?...

How U r seeing closing Today Mkt. Considering the following matter: - 1. Expiry r about to near 2. 4900 & 5000 Put options r most active derivative today 3.Profit Booking 4.Mkt r not seeing to cross 5080 level 5.FII selling cash drivatives My opinion is Mkt can fall due to profit booking . Nifty can break 5000 level and sensex can break 17000 level. Its my opinion. Please also share ur opinions in this matter And Chief - Kamani Analysis was perfect for friday mkt. ...

Dear micky, Chinese tyres are case in point. Many people who have fitted Chinese tyres and driven their vehicles on expressways at high speed have come to grief as these tyres have given away at speeds above 90-100 kmph. Similarly Chinese milk products have caused widespread food poisoning. Chinese toys have not kept standards of required hygiene. People buy misery & sickness along with Chinese goods and loose their economic freedom. Example : USA & to lesser extent Europe. Some countries also buy political bullying; Example India....

Thank you very much for the kind information and valuable suggessions. I will keep in mind those precausions while selecting the firm for my second account. nagu...

Dear Moderator What I understand from all lot of this discussion is first Joetom should stop referring his blog and website etc. as no website in world will allow this except MMB. Why he is not able to post messages like other boarders do without any direct or indirect advertisement of his blog? If he post message in normal way and any boarder abuse him , we can take action against such boarders but not in present situation when complaintant himself is guilty of gross misconduct....

radhika ,
does moderator exists????
Is he potent???
Is he responsible and aware???
does he know what is an abuse???
what are fake ids????...

ramdeo ji,
I have read the MMB code of conduct its being posted for further reference.Its not a jungle raj and we dont belong to community of abusers.Abuse is unacceptable .Creating a false picture to lure others is also unacceptable.While some boarders are abusing openly there are others who create a false picture to FOG out others to lure them into their web.When ever i will see some one doing that i will express myself and appeal to the boareder in the language he understands the best.I am not doing the moral policing but i am a responsible boarder.Name calling, berating. belittling and unparliamentary language on board is uncalled for.
Ethical conduct for the posts are being reproduced.I havent found joe tom indulging in unethical behaviour.The choice of him to write here and not is entirely his.I like his posts and his calls since long long time regards
dhakak
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Nagu.
Please write an email to the coustomer greivance explaning them your exact fear of token number.Also mention to them that you have kept the token key in sound and healthy position .I suggest you tell them since you trade in options it is imperative for you to log in every day and they should issue you another token at earliest(i understand each token has life time of two years}.Also I suggest that enquire from them what are the warning signs that token needs to get changed.I suggest in writting you put up a received copy of your querry to the nearest reliance money office.Write a line that you understand that there may be 4-5 days delay in getting a new token released from bombay headoffice and if it leading to any financial loss in your position then you are not responsible for the delay in token number issued to you by relaince money.You must repeatedly raise this querry with local office and the coustomer greivance cell.They will respond in some manner then take your problem from their.I understnd that rs 200 is required to be sent for issue of new token and the time lag is 4 days and you are unable to trade those days.
dhakak...

RADHIKA JI POSITIVITY WILL GENERATE POSITIVITY.I am sure all your freinds will come back...

Congratulations Mam for your profits...

GOOD NEWS RUDRA...

Nodick ji,
pl dont say that.I am though not a personal beneficiarry of his any of his calls but he gives a holistic and birds eye view of economic enviornment in his messages .It benefits several of us.He also is able to point out certain stocks which as along term investor i find useful.
If you approach him on any problem he finds time and replies to you.You have to remeber he retired also from services and his trading is his hobby and passion .He started from the MMB where he developed so many freinds.He needs to interact with them .Several professional traders are/ were giving calls on the board.We may choose to track or ignore them but that does not mean we throw abuses at them.Yes object when you find manipulation or when you find them giving a very wrong perception but that should be in adignified manner and with reasons.
Joe sir is man of dignity and word.I have seen him refusing money when his blog members suffered losses for the month.He also gives discount to people of specific category.
Please dont be judgmental .You should not feel alarmed by his sucess .God will also give you success.
regards
dhakak...

NO DICK JI ACHAY ACHAY LOGON KAY STOP LOSS HIT HO JATAY HAIN VAISAIY YEAH BHI HO GAYA kAUN BADI BAAT HAI.Aaap nay to nahin suni unki .Aaap sarafat say paish aain.Joe sir is human and market is trcky .Please dont abuse. Pl dont call names.Your such posts are disliked and dont throw you good light.Personal issues are not settled in such manners.There is a decorum.Pl maintain them
regards
dhakak...

Nodick ji,

I dont agree the way you address the senior boarders like joe tom sir.He is not only elder to you but also more knowledable than many of us.He retired from services doing honorable job to the indian navy.He has every right to propogate himself and seek affilliatory needs from this board as both you and i have .
You disagree .You may even give a counterargument and project your point of you but please dont pollute the board by name calling and abuses.
Sir ji,
jaban ka aur kalam ka istemal soch samjh kar karna chahia.Aap to samajhdar hAi
dhakak ...

Dear Monsadas,

I rated your message with stars as you not only delineated the men from the boys but also laid down the positive attributes of each o them.
It was very thought ful of you to include
nagu75 best in option writting
sn vaish in in techniqual
Malyali as class apart and also not to forget Joe tom and kadiyali.

I want to add that techniqually there are few other names prominently missing but I do agree that impact players of MMB team are surely vaish ji ,nagu who have widely influenced the way people think and invest in stock market in positive way.
Few names missing and who have influenced my investment behaviour and are also utility players are Radhika ji and rupesh and sheer in art of communication Ashtrix.
Another aspect of MMB members in the few names you took is that few of them are also excellent human beings beside being thorough in their field
regards
dhakak...

rupesh ji very well siad and for FOG Its important to defogg and it comes through light of knowledge only.
Dealing with FOG(DEFOGGING)- Well its important to have detachment while trading and as much objectivity through knowledge, techniqual analysis, lateral reading self research and guidance of senior reliable and objective MMB members. As fog disappears with light similarly this Fog also disappears with light of knowledge .It is not easy it comes with practice and experience and with knowledge of stock market.
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Kindly identify your feelings when you enter the trading decision and try to minimize, reduce and eliminate them .

FEAR-a- I have missed out the market rise now I have to just join it.(Fear of having missed out or left out/ fear of abandonment)
b- I have waited too long in this stock I must jump out of it at earliest opportunity.
c- I must leave my position / REDUCE MY position as I have earned sufficiently.
d- Market will fall tomorrow so I must exit today.

Obligation-a-I am trying to live up to blog writers expectations
b- I have to be faithful to blog leader he knows the best
c-I f I don’t enter the trade my blog leader will think I have betrayed him ..
d- I have been so long with him so why should I desert him when going is tough.
e- I have been married to this share I will not sell it.
f-I am faithful to the company I will not sell it .
g- I am in love with this share
h- This is excellent dividend paying company so what if its buisness prospects are falling.

Greed-a-I should wait longer it will go up (nifty/stock)
b-nifty will fall and puts will give hefty profits
c-This share is in momentum and I will make quick buck.
d-This share is hitting circuits I will buy it.
e- It’s a gold mine (penny share)

Like this friends one can figure out ones FOG issues recognize them and note them down in piece of paper and slowly work on them to eliminate them so that we reduce emotions and improve objectivity
Hope it helps and doubts are welcome and I will try my level best to clear them
regards
dhakak
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Friends in continuation to the FOG Issues which i had mentioned in my post to Nagu i would like to further ellaborate on this for common benefit of all the boarders.
fear=F
obligation=O
greed=G
These are the the three prime emotions (FOG)that govern our trading behaviour.Rather these are the three hot buttons when ever they are pressed we act submissively or in a self defeating manner.
I further explain them one by one with example.Lets take first fear.Fear Acts on the traders mind several times when likes of messages comes that "nifty goining to fall to 3270 levels".All the naive or inexpirinenced investors and all the greedy traders gather in a herd believing the message and either sell thier profitable position or buy the nifty puts for making a kill and the result is that they suffered losses and september 2009 is a month of that behaviour seen in the investor community.
They possibly never bothered to check the relistic nifty support and resistance levels or never interpreted the cues of persistent inflow of the FIIS money into the domestic market just before the period and due to FOG button being pressed their reality testing was altered and just as you cant see in FOG THE ROAD AHEAD they too failed to see the trap and fell into loss .What was very obivious which was that nifty was making higher tops and higher bottoms and bit of consolidation occurs in all the market and is very healthy and necessary for any growth in the market.
At the same time some manipulators(desperators) on the board who wanted to make quick buck started writting repeated messages on the MMb board for the green investors(new ones)and pressing their FOG issues they made hefty money in their blogs and many unsuspecting investors fell in that trap.Nifty never had a serious fall in september and consolidated well before touching 5150 in october.Majority of naive and less experienced traders suffered the loss and lost thier profitable positions Due to their fear and obligation to follow the senior boarder or blog opener and greed of making quick money.So you see how the FOG buttons work and is detrimental to you as a healthy investor.So now lets recognize the following issues in one self related to each Fear,Obligation ,Greed(fog)emotion and please realize and elliminate them.It is not easy it comes with practice and expeience and with knowledge of stock market though reading , techniqual analysis and discussion for which this board provides ample oppertunity to each of us and for which several senior and well intentioned boarders are also present.
Following thoughts OCCUR when you are trying to invest or trade in the market.Each emotion will be covered in the different category and you honestly answer the question and note the answer
FEAR
1- I have missed out the market rise now I have to just join it.(Fear of having missed out or left out)
2- I have waited too long in this stock i must jump out of it at earliest opperunity.
3- I must leave my position/ REDUCE MY position as i have earned sufficiently.
4- MARKET WILL FALL TOMORROW SO I MUST GET OUT OF IT.
Obligation-
1-I am trying to live up to blog writters expectations
2- I have to be faithful to my blog leader
3-I f i dont enter the trade my blog leader will think I am bad.
4- I have been so long with him so why should i desert him
5- I have been holding this share for such along why should i sell it.
6-I am faithfull to the company why should i sell the share
7- I am in love with this share
8- This is exellent dividend paying company so what its falling buisness prospect
Greed
1-I should wait lonfer
2-nifty will fall and puts will give hefty profits
Like this freinds one can figure out ones FOG issues recognize them and note them down in piece of paer and slowly work on them to elliminate them so that we reduce emotions and improve objectivity
Hope it helps and doubts are welcome and i will try my level best to clear them
regards
dhakak
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