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21 Aug 2008 21:55
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Hi,
I was reading some post on SIMI and the above politicians,are these politicians naive or very shrewd?
1 When Paswan proposed Muslim CM for Bhihar Laloo did not agree,and election followed
2 Mulyam a few years back said GOI should give money to PAK
3 Laloo initiated separate inquiry on sabarmati express and Cleared minority hand,much before the larger commission
4When Mayavati clamped on Shara thru RBI,Why Mulyam went and saw her?
5 Why Amrsing Supporting Anil,Just friend ship?or needed money to buy out MPs for trust vote?
6 Shabana claiming ,she cannot buy flat in Mumbai,
The question---Did She earn all the money from Muslims of India?only?
So the point i am making is all these decisions,actions etc are purely based on self interest
The politics will change with demographics
Paswan,laloo,mulyam cannot come to power
With out getting Muslim votes that is the reality and they will play the game as long as it suits them
jammu happening is a learning to these politicians,will they?any body's guess
"man proposes,God disposes"
Let them keep proposing


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21 Aug 2008 20:35

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Seems rather difficult, as the sentiments are very low, & sentiments is all that matters in the stock mkt.No triggers in near horizon. Market will just drift, sideways at best ,but chances are it will slide further slowly, & test your patience. Market will scream on your face , to differenciate between cunning traders & genuine investors.To put it bluntly, you can not see even 200 in 2-3 months. 150 is possible....

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BLAST

Posted by : Guest

I have 935 shares for Unitech @ Rs 170..when can i expect alevel for Rs 300.00..pls advise me..is it possible to reach that level within 2-3mnths.

Thanks & regards

Rakesh

21 Aug 2008 16:38

BLAST

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let them wallow,swllow,smear themselves with semi excreta.but not the nation with such fragrant,vagrant sandal paste and pastries....

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BLAST

Posted by : NODIK

AMAR singh, Mulayam singh, are SIMI themselves, naturally they are singing the wrong tune. Imagine, these are our pathfinders??? What a shame, our nation has to suffer such rouges.God save our motherland from such evil souls.

21 Aug 2008 16:35

azaadi with pak only will be 15 nano secs.emboldened only by art 370 and indian subsidy[unproductive and grateful?]...

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J&K water politics--Rivers

Posted by : gv

Hi,
People like geelani that Pakistan interested in Indian kashmiris
But he totally got it wrong
If you see the recent agitation in Jammu
It has sent fears in to PAK and also the friend they have in Indian Kashmir
Pls read this report to get the ultimate aim of PAK

"'Rivers not Kashmir, Pakistan's aim'

MSN.com, March 31, 2005
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New Delhi, March 31: Pakistan's obsession with Kashmir is not driven by territorial ambitions or love for the Kashmiris but rather a desire to control the rivers in Jammu and Kashmir, says a report.

"Pakistan's primary interest in Kashmir (is) to secure its water resources in order to satisfy Punjab and contain Sindh (and this) is in confrontation with the interests of the people of Kashmir on both sides of the Line of Control (LoC)," says the report.

The report - "The Final Settlement: Restructuring India-Pakistan Relations" - was prepared by the International Centre for Peace Initiatives, a Mumbai-based independent think tank.

"Pakistan is not interested in Kashmir alone; Pakistan wants Kashmir plus those districts of Jammu that form the catchment area of the Chenab (river)", it says. "A water war between Kashmir and Pakistan is inevitable in the future."

It says physical control over the Chenab valley would provide Pakistan an opportunity to build dams upstream and regulate river flows to Punjab and Sindh.

It notes that India has identified nine sites on the Chenab to build hydroelectric dams, some of which could be bigger or comparable to the largest dams in Pakistan - Tarbela and Mangla.

Under the bilateral Indus Waters Treaty of 1960, India can only build run-of-the-river hydroelectric stations. "If Pakistan can get control of the area, it would have no such restrictions," the report says.

"It would also provide strategic depth for the Mangla dam and the important Pothohar region in Punjab from where more than half of the army personnel are recruited.

"However, India would lose the strategically vital Akhnoor area in Jammu and also access to Ladakh," it said.

The report said if India and Pakistan were to take a political decision to restructure their relations, they would have to ensure that water served to bring them together rather than push them towards conflict.

"Since 1999, every proposal made by Pakistan through Track II diplomacy, either directly or indirectly, refers to water as a core issue," the report said.

"The statements made by Pakistan's military officials, Kashmiri leaders and newspaper editorials describe Jammu and Kashmir as a supplier of crucial rivers, and project bloodshed there as the sacrifice made by Kashmiri youth to ensure Pakistan's water security."

It quoted Hizbul Mujahideen leader Salahuddin as having said: "Kashmir is the source from where all of Pakistan's water resources originate. If Pakistan loses its battle against India, it will become a desert."

As a "bright and ambitious" brigadier undergoing a course at the Royal College of Defence Studies in London , President Pervez Musharraf himself had in a dissertation said the issue of distribution of Indus river waters between India and Pakistan had the "germs of future conflict".

According to the report, Pakistan 's per capita water availability has declined from 5,600 cubic metres at the time of its independence in 1947 to 1,200 cubic meters in 2005. This is expected to reach the "threshold level" of 1,000 cubic metres before 2010.

"While all provinces are suffering from water shortages, there is a tendency to force Sindh to bear a disproportionately higher share of burden than Punjab . The army leadership is keen on ensuring water supply to Punjab at the cost of Sindh," it said, noting that senior officers, including Musharaf, who is also army chief, have purchased land in Punjab .

The report said the construction of Mangla dam had led to resentment on both sides of the LoC - in Mirpur area of Pakistan-administered Kashmir as it has submerged large areas in the region and in the Kashmir Valley on the Indian side because the Indus Waters Treaty undermines the potential to develop hydroelectricity and irrigation projects.

"There is a direct conflict between Pakistan and the people of Jammu and Kashmir . Pakistan wants the Kashmir Valley and parts of Jammu to be able to build dams to divert waters to Punjab 's benefit at the cost of the Kashmiris.

"On the other hand, Jammu and Kashmir needs to come out of the Indus Waters Treaty to improve its own irrigation, hydroelectricity and employment prospects.

" Pakistan is not interested in the full accession of Kashmir if it involves giving equal rights to Kashmir along with other provinces. Pakistan 's interest is in having Kashmir as a semi-autonomous state, which cannot demand equal rights with other provinces, but which allows the federal government to exercise political control over its resources," the report said.

21 Aug 2008 16:32

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sliding with them is truly secular.no errr
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Posted by : treasureddhan

Amar singh and SP MUlayam says SIMI IS WRONGLY IMPLICATED. What a shame?

21 Aug 2008 13:43

Yesterday i watched a debate on terrorism recent event and some speakers were fair in their views
But Tiesta Selvad was very negative and criticizing all the time,even ordinary viewers are able to see this
My point these type of people in the form NGO trying to get popularity through these channels
Why these channels are encouraging these type of speakers
Yes it is needed to hear all points of views,and we have many good independent experts to give views
I think the channels are walking on the thine line
Sooner are later regulator will see the point of "giving news and creating news"
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21 Aug 2008 07:34

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I have 935 shares for Unitech @ Rs 170..when can i expect alevel for Rs 300.00..pls advise me..is it possible to reach that level within 2-3mnths.

Thanks & regards

Rakesh...

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BLAST

Posted by : NODIK

Guest , you are again, classifing the people, like our so called netas do. This is the route cause of our ills, & that is why we are not able to achieve what we should have achieved by now. Thinking like this, gives our illiterate netas ,further boost to destroy our country. And where are you getting all these misleading figures.You only require a change in mindset, clarity of thinking, & the world will look different to you. Recruiting by, merit should be the criteria, rather than distribution thro reservations.

21 Aug 2008 07:07

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AMAR singh, Mulayam singh, are SIMI themselves, naturally they are singing the wrong tune. Imagine, these are our pathfinders??? What a shame, our nation has to suffer such rouges.God save our motherland from such evil souls....

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BLAST

Posted by : treasureddhan

Amar singh and SP MUlayam says SIMI IS WRONGLY IMPLICATED. What a shame?

21 Aug 2008 06:46

BLAST

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Guest , you are again, classifing the people, like our so called netas do. This is the route cause of our ills, & that is why we are not able to achieve what we should have achieved by now. Thinking like this, gives our illiterate netas ,further boost to destroy our country. And where are you getting all these misleading figures.You only require a change in mindset, clarity of thinking, & the world will look different to you. Recruiting by, merit should be the criteria, rather than distribution thro reservations....

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BLAST

Posted by : Guest

dear mfactor , India will be a strong country only if the majority of bahujans(Dalits , back wards , poor upper catses and minorities ) becomes middle class in india. Right now 20% of elite people (mostly upper caste) is belongs to middle cast , bcs they control the economy , Job market - pvt & Govt- and all country resources .

If the majority of bahujans becomes middle class in india it will boost our economy and will ultimately benfit people participating in stock market like us. So first we need to fight against the social discrimination against all sections , then automatically the issues like terrorism and maoism etc will disappear.

See our Intelligence , 95% is upper caste there and not recruiting any people from muslims , then how can they know and prevent about extermism among muslims? . So first bring all sections into the mainframe of society ..then our country will be great and strong.

21 Aug 2008 05:46

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Amar singh and SP MUlayam says SIMI IS WRONGLY IMPLICATED. What a shame?...

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BLAST

Posted by : treasureddhan

Today for once Government of India acknowledge the stand of Modi that SIMI was brain behind the blasts in the country. This is itching Amar singh Laloo and Paswan

20 Aug 2008 23:00

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Today for once Government of India acknowledge the stand of Modi that SIMI was brain behind the blasts in the country. This is itching Amar singh Laloo and Paswan...

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Posted by : Mfactor

Dear Tally,


Hope of making stronge india had vanished when congress adopted secular path, the only route to strong nation is eigther one religion or banning all form of religion(chinese model)

Mfactor

20 Aug 2008 21:46

Hi,
People like geelani that Pakistan interested in Indian kashmiris
But he totally got it wrong
If you see the recent agitation in Jammu
It has sent fears in to PAK and also the friend they have in Indian Kashmir
Pls read this report to get the ultimate aim of PAK

"'Rivers not Kashmir, Pakistan's aim'

MSN.com, March 31, 2005
Print this Article

New Delhi, March 31: Pakistan's obsession with Kashmir is not driven by territorial ambitions or love for the Kashmiris but rather a desire to control the rivers in Jammu and Kashmir, says a report.

"Pakistan's primary interest in Kashmir (is) to secure its water resources in order to satisfy Punjab and contain Sindh (and this) is in confrontation with the interests of the people of Kashmir on both sides of the Line of Control (LoC)," says the report.

The report - "The Final Settlement: Restructuring India-Pakistan Relations" - was prepared by the International Centre for Peace Initiatives, a Mumbai-based independent think tank.

"Pakistan is not interested in Kashmir alone; Pakistan wants Kashmir plus those districts of Jammu that form the catchment area of the Chenab (river)", it says. "A water war between Kashmir and Pakistan is inevitable in the future."

It says physical control over the Chenab valley would provide Pakistan an opportunity to build dams upstream and regulate river flows to Punjab and Sindh.

It notes that India has identified nine sites on the Chenab to build hydroelectric dams, some of which could be bigger or comparable to the largest dams in Pakistan - Tarbela and Mangla.

Under the bilateral Indus Waters Treaty of 1960, India can only build run-of-the-river hydroelectric stations. "If Pakistan can get control of the area, it would have no such restrictions," the report says.

"It would also provide strategic depth for the Mangla dam and the important Pothohar region in Punjab from where more than half of the army personnel are recruited.

"However, India would lose the strategically vital Akhnoor area in Jammu and also access to Ladakh," it said.

The report said if India and Pakistan were to take a political decision to restructure their relations, they would have to ensure that water served to bring them together rather than push them towards conflict.

"Since 1999, every proposal made by Pakistan through Track II diplomacy, either directly or indirectly, refers to water as a core issue," the report said.

"The statements made by Pakistan's military officials, Kashmiri leaders and newspaper editorials describe Jammu and Kashmir as a supplier of crucial rivers, and project bloodshed there as the sacrifice made by Kashmiri youth to ensure Pakistan's water security."

It quoted Hizbul Mujahideen leader Salahuddin as having said: "Kashmir is the source from where all of Pakistan's water resources originate. If Pakistan loses its battle against India, it will become a desert."

As a "bright and ambitious" brigadier undergoing a course at the Royal College of Defence Studies in London , President Pervez Musharraf himself had in a dissertation said the issue of distribution of Indus river waters between India and Pakistan had the "germs of future conflict".

According to the report, Pakistan 's per capita water availability has declined from 5,600 cubic metres at the time of its independence in 1947 to 1,200 cubic meters in 2005. This is expected to reach the "threshold level" of 1,000 cubic metres before 2010.

"While all provinces are suffering from water shortages, there is a tendency to force Sindh to bear a disproportionately higher share of burden than Punjab . The army leadership is keen on ensuring water supply to Punjab at the cost of Sindh," it said, noting that senior officers, including Musharaf, who is also army chief, have purchased land in Punjab .

The report said the construction of Mangla dam had led to resentment on both sides of the LoC - in Mirpur area of Pakistan-administered Kashmir as it has submerged large areas in the region and in the Kashmir Valley on the Indian side because the Indus Waters Treaty undermines the potential to develop hydroelectricity and irrigation projects.

"There is a direct conflict between Pakistan and the people of Jammu and Kashmir . Pakistan wants the Kashmir Valley and parts of Jammu to be able to build dams to divert waters to Punjab 's benefit at the cost of the Kashmiris.

"On the other hand, Jammu and Kashmir needs to come out of the Indus Waters Treaty to improve its own irrigation, hydroelectricity and employment prospects.

" Pakistan is not interested in the full accession of Kashmir if it involves giving equal rights to Kashmir along with other provinces. Pakistan 's interest is in having Kashmir as a semi-autonomous state, which cannot demand equal rights with other provinces, but which allows the federal government to exercise political control over its resources," the report said....

20 Aug 2008 20:07

Yes important item
But i think--Any how he will not get good sleep due to what happened to him,so he may not mind mosquito bites
However family is advised to carry...

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Mush Quits--Take home tips from Nawas

Posted by : arg_s

some important questions - do you have mosquitos there? are repellers like Tortoise or All out available in the shops or do we have to carry adequate supply with our baggage?

20 Aug 2008 19:39

India is not that weak that it has to become a stooge of US....

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Black Spot in Singh's political career

Posted by : columbus

Dear kumarshish,

Tried to guess correctly ,but 100% wrong.

Ok ,suppose you have gone ahead with the atomic generators ,but the FUEL has to come from US.By any reason if they stop fuel to India due to some false reason then the entire investment is wasted.Of course ,there will a clause on regular fuel supply,there be another clause to STOP also.

Due to this agreement we lose our control on our nuclear activities and then US have right to supervise our nuclear establishments.

In all India will become a stooge in the hands of US.

I do not think it won't add more than 3% of our energy needs.

19 Aug 2008 22:03
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Your are right. But the one that took place on 22nd July was only a Trust Vode moved by the Prome Minister - not a no confidence vote moved by the opposition. Therefore, if the opposition brings a no confidence motion, it will be in order as per rules. But the question is whether they may make such a move at the present juncture.
Sridharan...

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shibu soren

Posted by : blackshirt12

There is a minimum gap between two no confidence motions..
The next one cannot be tabled before six months..

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