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ICSA India

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BSE: 531524
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12 Oct 2008 22:20

10000 cr APDRP orders by mar 2009

Posted by : sandyp
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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Hi Reliabull,
Good message But it will not help to boost ICSA.Surely now it shall go below 100 within shoprt period & then there is no target as ICSA may down by free fall...... ...

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10000 cr APDRP orders by mar 2009

Posted by : reliabull

GOOD NEWS
On Berkshire Hathway company site businesswire dot com
IT in Power Sector: Performance Upgradation including Automation Conference
December 11th - 12th, 2008
New Delhi, India

Information Technology in Power Sector

The power sector is opening up and use of information technology and automation systems can play a major role in bringing about standardization, transparency, revenue realization and reduction in transmission and distribution losses in the sector. Technology innovation can only benefit the sector and IT has a major role to play in empowering the power supply utilities.
There is a huge need for specialized, customized and upgraded software systems for the power sector. The size and the scope of the software order are significant. As a part of the APDRP initiative, India’s state-owned power utilities are expected to place, before March 2009, orders for Rs10,000 crore of software that can help them in project monitoring and in managing their networks better.
The Seminar will focus on ‘Application of IT for Upgradation of Technical Performance and Automation in Power Supply Sector’ and ‘Better Financial Engineering with the Information Technology’ in Power Sector covering generation, transmission and distributions segments. The ‘IT in Power’ seminar &exhibition series offers a unique platform to learn, discuss and exchange experience about the major structural, technical, managerial & regulatory changes in IT & automation applications amongst stakeholders.
Topics for Discussions
Application of Information Technology in Power Sector
New Initiatives & Programmes
Status of IT Applications
Assessment of power and energy demand for next 15 years
Enterprise Integrated Automation
New Requirements and Technologies
IT in Generation, including ERP Solutions, Energy Efficiency, Monitoring Systems, DCS, DMS, Material Management, Simulators, CFD
IT in Transmission, including Smart Grid, Open Access, Power Trading, Energy Exchange, Substation Automation & Integration
IT in Distribution covering Performance Improvement, Asset & System Management, GIS, Smart Metering, AMI, AMR, Revenue Protection, Metering & Billing, CRM, Energy Audit, Customer Indexing, Trouble Call Management
GPS based mapping system for power supply network
Equipment management information system
Communication technologies, including PLCC, PCN and BPL
Trends in Wireless Technology
Remote Monitoring & Wireless Control
SCADA Applications in Power
Open Protocol/Utility Application Integration Standards
Security Metrics and Compliance for IT Processes
Regulators/System operators
Seminar Highlights

Ideal occasion to meet, interact & network with policy planners, business associates & prospective clients committed to best practices in IT business
Informative & innovative sessions to showcase contributions, advancement, technologies and opportunities available
Senior decision makers from the power sector involved in the organisation of the event
Participation expected from the entire stakeholder community including regulatory & policy making authorities, central power sector organizations, state electricity boards, unbundled distribution companies, private sector utilities, meter manufacturers, IT companies, consultants, FIs, equipment mfrs & suppliers, research organisations etc.
Many key players have already confirmed their participation
Participation

‘IT in Power Sector’ is the ideal platform to get a full picture of the information technology applications in the power sector, whether you are from the utility, regulatory, private power producer, IPP, merchant power producer, private network operator, product, IT, consultancy, research, or academic sector of the power industry. Don`t miss this opportunity to hear the Industry leaders and network with policy planners & top industry players.

Companies Mentioned:(some deleted)

- A2Z Group
- ABPS
- Infrastructure Advisory
- Alcatel Lucent
- Analog Devices India
- Analogics TechAvon Meters
- Bentec Electricals
- BPL Telecom
- Capgemini India
- Capital MetersCentral Power Research Institute
- CDAC
- CESC
- Connect M
- Conzerv SystemsCrompton Greaves
- Dakshin Haryana Bijli Vitran Nigam
- Dakshinanchal Vidyut
- Vitran Nigam
- Datagen Power Systems
- E&Y- Easun Reyrolle
- Easun ReyrolleECE Industries
- ERDA
- GE Energy
- Genus Power Infrastructures
- Global Energy
- Consulting Engineers
- HCL Infosystems
- Himachal Pradesh State Electricity
- Board
- HPL- Socomec
- IBM
- ICSA (India)
- IEEMA
- IIT Roorkee
- Industrial
- Controls & Drives
- Infosys
- Iskaemeco Seahorse
- Jamshedpur Utilities & Service
- Kalki Communication Technologies
- Karnataka Power Corporation
- KLG Systel
- Landis Gyr
- Larsen & Toubro Infotech
- Leo Integrated Technologies
- Madhya Pradesh Madhya Kshetra Vidyut
- Madhya Pradesh Transmission Company
- Maharashtra State
- Distribution Company
- Norte

12 Oct 2008 20:00

10000 cr APDRP orders by mar 2009

Posted by : reliabull
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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GOOD NEWS
On Berkshire Hathway company site businesswire dot com
IT in Power Sector: Performance Upgradation including Automation Conference
December 11th - 12th, 2008
New Delhi, India

Information Technology in Power Sector

The power sector is opening up and use of information technology and automation systems can play a major role in bringing about standardization, transparency, revenue realization and reduction in transmission and distribution losses in the sector. Technology innovation can only benefit the sector and IT has a major role to play in empowering the power supply utilities.
There is a huge need for specialized, customized and upgraded software systems for the power sector. The size and the scope of the software order are significant. As a part of the APDRP initiative, India’s state-owned power utilities are expected to place, before March 2009, orders for Rs10,000 crore of software that can help them in project monitoring and in managing their networks better.
The Seminar will focus on ‘Application of IT for Upgradation of Technical Performance and Automation in Power Supply Sector’ and ‘Better Financial Engineering with the Information Technology’ in Power Sector covering generation, transmission and distributions segments. The ‘IT in Power’ seminar &exhibition series offers a unique platform to learn, discuss and exchange experience about the major structural, technical, managerial & regulatory changes in IT & automation applications amongst stakeholders.
Topics for Discussions
Application of Information Technology in Power Sector
New Initiatives & Programmes
Status of IT Applications
Assessment of power and energy demand for next 15 years
Enterprise Integrated Automation
New Requirements and Technologies
IT in Generation, including ERP Solutions, Energy Efficiency, Monitoring Systems, DCS, DMS, Material Management, Simulators, CFD
IT in Transmission, including Smart Grid, Open Access, Power Trading, Energy Exchange, Substation Automation & Integration
IT in Distribution covering Performance Improvement, Asset & System Management, GIS, Smart Metering, AMI, AMR, Revenue Protection, Metering & Billing, CRM, Energy Audit, Customer Indexing, Trouble Call Management
GPS based mapping system for power supply network
Equipment management information system
Communication technologies, including PLCC, PCN and BPL
Trends in Wireless Technology
Remote Monitoring & Wireless Control
SCADA Applications in Power
Open Protocol/Utility Application Integration Standards
Security Metrics and Compliance for IT Processes
Regulators/System operators
Seminar Highlights

Ideal occasion to meet, interact & network with policy planners, business associates & prospective clients committed to best practices in IT business
Informative & innovative sessions to showcase contributions, advancement, technologies and opportunities available
Senior decision makers from the power sector involved in the organisation of the event
Participation expected from the entire stakeholder community including regulatory & policy making authorities, central power sector organizations, state electricity boards, unbundled distribution companies, private sector utilities, meter manufacturers, IT companies, consultants, FIs, equipment mfrs & suppliers, research organisations etc.
Many key players have already confirmed their participation
Participation

‘IT in Power Sector’ is the ideal platform to get a full picture of the information technology applications in the power sector, whether you are from the utility, regulatory, private power producer, IPP, merchant power producer, private network operator, product, IT, consultancy, research, or academic sector of the power industry. Don`t miss this opportunity to hear the Industry leaders and network with policy planners & top industry players.

Companies Mentioned:(some deleted)

- A2Z Group
- ABPS
- Infrastructure Advisory
- Alcatel Lucent
- Analog Devices India
- Analogics TechAvon Meters
- Bentec Electricals
- BPL Telecom
- Capgemini India
- Capital MetersCentral Power Research Institute
- CDAC
- CESC
- Connect M
- Conzerv SystemsCrompton Greaves
- Dakshin Haryana Bijli Vitran Nigam
- Dakshinanchal Vidyut
- Vitran Nigam
- Datagen Power Systems
- E&Y- Easun Reyrolle
- Easun ReyrolleECE Industries
- ERDA
- GE Energy
- Genus Power Infrastructures
- Global Energy
- Consulting Engineers
- HCL Infosystems
- Himachal Pradesh State Electricity
- Board
- HPL- Socomec
- IBM
- ICSA (India)
- IEEMA
- IIT Roorkee
- Industrial
- Controls & Drives
- Infosys
- Iskaemeco Seahorse
- Jamshedpur Utilities & Service
- Kalki Communication Technologies
- Karnataka Power Corporation
- KLG Systel
- Landis Gyr
- Larsen & Toubro Infotech
- Leo Integrated Technologies
- Madhya Pradesh Madhya Kshetra Vidyut
- Madhya Pradesh Transmission Company
- Maharashtra State
- Distribution Company
- Norte...

12 Oct 2008 20:00

CLSA Bedrock values

Posted by : hembhat
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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If frontliners falls below bedrock values, then investors will have to give up bedrocking also....

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CLSA Bedrock values

Posted by : reliabull

CLSA has given bedrock values for sensex as 9500. It has given bedrock values for frontliners saying that few companies are within 10-20% of their bedrock values.
And suddenly the word bedrock is being thrown everywhere, on cnbc, on udayan`s and mitali`s lips, in blogs, etc.
The question is what will be the name given to the levels once the bedrock levels are broken??? I have thought of some. `EarthCore` and if that gets broken `OppositePole` and my humour fails to get past that.........

12 Oct 2008 19:54

CLSA Bedrock values

Posted by : reliabull
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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CLSA has given bedrock values for sensex as 9500. It has given bedrock values for frontliners saying that few companies are within 10-20% of their bedrock values.
And suddenly the word bedrock is being thrown everywhere, on cnbc, on udayan`s and mitali`s lips, in blogs, etc.
The question is what will be the name given to the levels once the bedrock levels are broken??? I have thought of some. `EarthCore` and if that gets broken `OppositePole` and my humour fails to get past that............

10 Oct 2008 22:20

yeah!!! now Goldman sachs enters

Posted by : hembhat
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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when market recovers, ICSA will gallop...

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yeah!!! now Goldman sachs enters

Posted by : mintu01254

Oh great strategy,Earlier this firm exited @ around 500 now entered with 35 cr stake.

10 Oct 2008 18:59

yeah!!! now Goldman sachs enters

Posted by : cheetguy
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 142.95 ( -12.46 % ), NSE: Rs. 142.25 ( -13.13 % )
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Will Goldman Sachs save its own langot ???. Which i think will be owned by FED a govt organisation and will loose al its control to invest in emerging markets....

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yeah!!! now Goldman sachs enters

Posted by : mintu01254

Oh great strategy,Earlier this firm exited @ around 500 now entered with 35 cr stake.

10 Oct 2008 07:38

yeah!!! now Goldman sachs enters

Posted by : mintu01254
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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Oh great strategy,Earlier this firm exited @ around 500 now entered with 35 cr stake. ...

10 Oct 2008 06:55

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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Hi reliabull,
BE cautious. Do not buy any stock till market crash below 9000. Sure it shall go below 9000 within very very short time,may be before OCT 2008.U may select only FUNDAMENTALLY strong large stocks ONLY in A group. Mid cap & Small cap will not run for at least 2-3 years. ...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp

Hi rags123,
It is bearish market & in bearish market if u see u will kanow good stock shall get at or below 3 p.e. There is slogan in MARATHI that

10 Oct 2008 06:50

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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Hi rags123,
It is bearish market & in bearish market if u see u will kanow good stock shall get at or below 3 p.e. There is slogan in MARATHI that ...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : rags123

sandyp,

It was interesting to read your sell call recommendation on ICSA at 400. Could you throw some light on the basis of buying at 150 or below?

10 Oct 2008 00:10

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : rags123
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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sandyp,

It was interesting to read your sell call recommendation on ICSA at 400. Could you throw some light on the basis of buying at 150 or below?
...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp

Dear reliabull,
read ur list. OK.but u may buy these stocks at below level
1 GENUS power below 110
2 ABAN offshore at 3 digit level
3 VIDEOCON IND. 125+/-
4 LARsen (LNT) BElow 700/-
About other I have no idea.U may add following stocks with long term
of 10 years.
1 prajind 70+/-
2 sesagoa 90+/-
3gvk power 13+/-
4 punjlyod 175+/-
5 unitedspirit750+/-
6 jpassociates80+/-
7 jphydro30+/-
8 tatasteel250+/-
9 bhartiairtel600+/-
10 RPL90+/-
11 RPOWER100+/-
12 abb500+/-
These stocks are very sound in future. ALL THE BEST

09 Oct 2008 21:32

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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Dear reliabull,
read ur list. OK.but u may buy these stocks at below level
1 GENUS power below 110
2 ABAN offshore at 3 digit level
3 VIDEOCON IND. 125+/-
4 LARsen (LNT) BElow 700/-
About other I have no idea.U may add following stocks with long term
of 10 years.
1 prajind 70+/-
2 sesagoa 90+/-
3gvk power 13+/-
4 punjlyod 175+/-
5 unitedspirit750+/-
6 jpassociates80+/-
7 jphydro30+/-
8 tatasteel250+/-
9 bhartiairtel600+/-
10 RPL90+/-
11 RPOWER100+/-
12 abb500+/-
These stocks are very sound in future. ALL THE BEST
...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : reliabull

Dear Sandyp
Thank you. Wish you a Happy Dassera too!! Even my computer would be unable to follow your precise buying schedule. Here is my buying list
1. Accentia Technologies
2. Genus Power/Bharat Bijlee
3. Vinati Organics
4. Cerebra Integrated
5. Dolphin /Aban Offshore
6. Salzer Electronics
7. Videocon Industries
8. Larsen
I think i will have a good 4 lacs into all of this by next year for LT hold
Cheers
Reliabull
(PS- Small investors may please do their own research..)

09 Oct 2008 20:23

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : rntyagi
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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I would like to add my preferred list:
1 Tulip
2 jubilant
3 Glodyne
4 Icsa
5 Zylog
6 Mcleod Rusell
7 Havell
8 Selan Exploration
9 SBI
10 Lanco Infra
11 Luptn
12 Sun Pharma...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : reliabull

Dear Sandyp
Thank you. Wish you a Happy Dassera too!! Even my computer would be unable to follow your precise buying schedule. Here is my buying list
1. Accentia Technologies
2. Genus Power/Bharat Bijlee
3. Vinati Organics
4. Cerebra Integrated
5. Dolphin /Aban Offshore
6. Salzer Electronics
7. Videocon Industries
8. Larsen
I think i will have a good 4 lacs into all of this by next year for LT hold
Cheers
Reliabull
(PS- Small investors may please do their own research..)

09 Oct 2008 11:52

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : reliabull
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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Dear Sandyp
Thank you. Wish you a Happy Dassera too!! Even my computer would be unable to follow your precise buying schedule. Here is my buying list
1. Accentia Technologies
2. Genus Power/Bharat Bijlee
3. Vinati Organics
4. Cerebra Integrated
5. Dolphin /Aban Offshore
6. Salzer Electronics
7. Videocon Industries
8. Larsen
I think i will have a good 4 lacs into all of this by next year for LT hold
Cheers
Reliabull
(PS- Small investors may please do their own research..)...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : sandyp

Hi reliabull,
Happy Dasara to u & ur family. Keep in mind that we both are not saying this is not good company. But our target for buying is different. U start from near @250/- level & I start from 170/-level.This is big difference. Now I am starting from 167/- & after every fall of 7% I am investing 10% of my SIP. Below 125/- I increase my SIP to 15% & then below 100/- @ 20 to 25% of my SIP. Due to this BE SURE we both shall remind each other. ALL THE BEST. Hope that we will be earn so high after 3 years. Disclose ur list of other sector where in ur investing through SIP that it shall help me.
Thanx Good Day

09 Oct 2008 10:52

Is it going cheap ?

Posted by : poorfellow
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 163.30 ( -3.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.75 ( -3.08 % )
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I have seen from bse website that ICSA has secured orders for Rs.82.91 Crores during January & February 2008 and Rs.461.93 Crores during July to Sept 2008. During the 2nd Qr of 2008-09 part of orders received earlier also might have to be executed with these fresh orders. Company`s Operating Income and NP (in Rs. millions) for last four quarters are as follows:

Sept/07 OI = 1462.31, NP = 288.80, EPS = 36.41 (Rs.10/- FV shares)
Dec/07 OI = 1891.34, NP = 362.44 EPS = 8.93 (Rs.2/- FV shares)
Mar/08 OI = 2117.81, NP = 374.59 EPS = 8.58 (Rs.2/- FV shares)
June/08 OI = 2414.98, NP = 409.69 EPS = 9.31 (Rs.2/- FV shares)

From the above details one can assess the future results and do the needful as he likes. In my opinion the price is falling due only to selling by MF(s) and FII(s). It is a purely temporary phase for the shares of this company. One may please recollect the rebound of Orchid Chemicals few months back and of Ranbaxy just happened yesterday. The lesson I learnt in my long experience in stock market is that ...

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Is it going cheap ?

Posted by : poorfellow

One should better go to the company`s website to see the answer of the technical part i.e. sale of product or service provider etc. I am not conversant with these details. I have seen its results from the bse website and credentials of the promoters from the company`s website. All the directors are esteemed technocrats. I have utmost faith on the promoters/Directors, who had tremendous sucess in their past services either in Govt. or private.

For the second part of your question, i.e. order book position etc., you have to keep faith on its past growth of turnover and profits. They may get huge orders at any date if presently not at hand (I do not know). Its products are of the latest technology and are coming out of their own research i.e. products are unique. They are used in conservation of electricity and safety of petrolium pipelines. In India, it has no contender at all. So, you have to put faith on the company.

Another reason to believe in growth is that it has got a 20MW windpower project at hand, under construction, which is a vital point to note.

I have told that I studied the price and volume movement. Yesterday I posted that it might cross Rs.200/- today. But unfortunately, today also a big seller (probably a mutual fund or an FII) has suddenly sold a bulk quantity of around 2.60 lakh shares at bse between Rs.161/- to Rs.164/- (Excuse: I do not follow nse movements). On such a sudden huge sell also, the price did not come down considerably. Anyway, due to overall negative sentiment of the market today, it could not go up. I believe, it will jump on friday or at least the next week. I became confident today that in the short term, its downside risk is very less.

09 Oct 2008 10:23

First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : bstalati
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Dear,

don`t be so optimistic about partiular one stock. i too hold large numbers of ICSA i my portfolio. it is also true that it has unique business model, good cagr, alos poaying dividend. but, market do nt find any fancy in this script. FIIs are also selling, so, no body in the market found attrative valuation at this level also for ICSA.

When maket will go up, first large cap will move and than other. to sustain confinence in this stock one has to wait for Q2 number and see that if there any slowdown in growth or decline in margin.

Power policy of GOVT will not be final as the elections are very near. and this news are already discounted. Besides, now day there are changes inthe foundamentla of the company also like Asian ELe., Easun Reyrolle even Seimens. Growth are getting slow and slow.

so, don`t put you all eggs in one basket...

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First 200 now 150 and then 100???

Posted by : reliabull

Dear Sandyp,
9000 is okay and so also 6050... No difference... i will buy now and even then. 3 years later all this won`t matter as far as ICSA is concerned... so keep this message in mind and remind me at that time..O.Kay?
Reliabull

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