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10 Nov 2008 17:49

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Posted by : gkmurthy1748
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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back to 20 ==1==2002...

10 Nov 2008 17:03

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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Yes you are right. GOI will take any decision only at the last moment. However, for UCO Bank conversion of equity to Pref. shares, decision has been taken, which is good....

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : harishkrsharma

Dear VKK43, ifciRocky

Our Govt still have excuses by sayng that we might not need stimulus package as our economy is more a domestic economy whereas China has export based.........

Do not expect any support from GOI even in tough times.........nothing new. When they cannot decide the future of OCDs in time ...how come one can expect anything out of the turn.

harish sharma

10 Nov 2008 16:34

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : harishkrsharma
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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Dear Ifci rocky,

As you might be knowing .......when the market does not goes up despite of good news one must understand that correction is likely to happen and ..........when the market does not go down inspite of negative news then we must realize that the correction is over.....

Now lets see what happens this time when the bad news come and hit the market.

harish...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : ifci_rocky

Wall Street turns to consumer to gauge economy
Sunday November 9, 6:11 pm ET
By Joe Bel Bruno, AP Business Writer

Investors await Wal-Mart earnings, retail sales report for insight into economy


NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street heads into another turbulent week with investors set to pore over a government report on retail sales and earnings from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. to get a better reading on the consumer.

There are growing signs that the deepening economic slowdown has caused Americans to tighten their purse strings. There was fresh evidence of this past week when retailers posted the worst October same-store sales in 35 years -- and analysts believe the upcoming holiday shopping season could be among the slowest in decades.

With consumer spending driving more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy, investors will be paying close attention to earnings outlooks for some of the nation`s biggest retailers. Wal-Mart, the nation`s biggest retail chain, will post results on Thursday. Kohl`s Corp., JCPenney Co., Macy`s Inc., and Abercrombie & Fitch Co. are scheduled to release reports as well.

Investors will get an overall picture of consumer spending on Friday when the Commerce Department releases its October retail sales index. The closely watched gauge is expected to show sales dropping 1.2 percent for the month after falling 1.2 percent in September. Excluding the battered automobile industry, sales are expected to have fallen 0.9 percent.

The market, still trying to recover from October`s devastating losses, will likely zigzag as investors react to these reports. This has been the pattern during the past few weeks, with major indexes swinging from one extreme to another in capricious trading.

Many analysts believe this volatility is part of a bottoming-out process. The real test is to see in the coming days if investors have already priced in the potential for negative news or if fear of a protracted recession will trigger another stream of selling.

"The news is going to be really bad, and that shouldn`t be a surprise to investors," said Peter Cohan, principal of Peter S. Cohan & Associates. "But, I`m feeling uncomfortable that the market is a daily mood ring for the economy. The small investors are largely out of the market, and what you end up with is a small number of very large players making decisions."

Cohan pins the volatility on hedge funds, pension funds, and big university endowments unloading stocks to raise collateral and scooping up undervalued stocks to seize opportunity. He believes this will eventually result in a more stable trading environment that will lure retail investors back, and add stability to major indexes.

Hedge funds could come to center stage this week if they receive another wave of redemption requests from investors. The upcoming Nov. 15 deadline for redemptions could cause further instability in the market, Cohan said.

Wall Street had enjoyed its biggest Election Day rally in history last Tuesday, but could not cling to those gains. This was followed by a two-day loss of about 10 percent in the major indexes, including a 929-point drop in the Dow, as investors turned their focus once more to the economy`s woes.

For the week, the Dow Jones industrial average and broader benchmarks such as the Standard & Poor`s 500 index lost about 4 percent after surging 10 percent or more the week before. Technical analysts are keeping a close eye on all the data this week, with continued concerns that the Dow will test its Oct. 10 intraday low of 7,882.51.

Stock futures trading early Sunday evening showed a slightly positive start for the markets. S&P 500 futures gained 0.83 percent, while Nasdaq 100 futures rose 0.66 percent.

continued

10 Nov 2008 16:31

Posted by : gkmurthy1748
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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ias ================i am safe ==i also sign======i am supreme ==============i am stupid ==================ips =============i play safe ===============ifs ===========i follow safe path ================ies =============== i enjoy safe path==================so in the hands of these babus our future is in ==============these iron legs where ever they go it is ashes and smell rotton eggs =======================foul smell...

10 Nov 2008 16:27

Views about IFCI

Posted by : harishkrsharma
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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IF IFCI breaks 23 then it may go up to 29. or else it may again touch 18-19 level....

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Views about IFCI

Posted by : arpitpuranik

i hav some shares of IFCI at 19.25 should i hold or book profit & bye some at its lower side.....wht is the future of this compony....for next 2 weeks

10 Nov 2008 15:50

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : harishkrsharma
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.15 ( 5.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.05 ( 5.25 % )
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I too have similar thoughts.........precisely correct....

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : ifci_rocky

Dear Harish Ji Rupee again will appreciate to below 39 levels in 4-6 Qtrs time it was the play of RBI & Govt to stop the outflows ruppe was depreciated so the dollar outflow will be less, in future when inflows start more dollars will flow for the same ruppe as it will appreciate heavily.

ifci rocky.

10 Nov 2008 15:48

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : harishkrsharma
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.05 ( 5.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.05 ( 5.25 % )
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Dear VKK43, ifciRocky

Our Govt still have excuses by sayng that we might not need stimulus package as our economy is more a domestic economy whereas China has export based.........

Do not expect any support from GOI even in tough times.........nothing new. When they cannot decide the future of OCDs in time ...how come one can expect anything out of the turn.

harish sharma...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : vkk43

Thanks for this info. As a result of this, there will be an improvement in the Chinese economy, which is at present facing slow down and weakness.

10 Nov 2008 15:29

Views about IFCI

Posted by : arpitpuranik
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.10 ( 5.50 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.15 ( 5.75 % )
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i hav some shares of IFCI at 19.25 should i hold or book profit & bye some at its lower side.....wht is the future of this compony....for next 2 weeks...

10 Nov 2008 15:22

Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : arpitpuranik
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 21.10 ( 5.50 % ), NSE: Rs. 21.10 ( 5.50 % )
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i hav some IFCI shares at 19.25 shud i book profi today or wait for some more time.....after todays rally is it seems to be go down or consistent up......?...

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Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : Guest

IFCI soon 14 Level, experts see market may be touch oct 08 Low 7700,

wait & then buying 14-15 rs

10 Nov 2008 14:53

Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : duldul
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 20.95 ( 4.75 % ), NSE: Rs. 20.95 ( 4.75 % )
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before preaching, why dont you practice by short selling now?...

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Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : Guest

IFCI soon 14 Level, experts see market may be touch oct 08 Low 7700,

wait & then buying 14-15 rs

10 Nov 2008 13:45

Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : Guest
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IFCI soon 14 Level, experts see market may be touch oct 08 Low 7700,

wait & then buying 14-15 rs...

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Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : arpitpuranik

wats your view about IFCI.......?

10 Nov 2008 11:53

Unitech Screwed my investment

Posted by : arpitpuranik
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 51.80 ( 1.97 % ), NSE: Rs. 51.85 ( 1.97 % )
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wats your view about IFCI.......?...

10 Nov 2008 08:10

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 20.00 ( 4.71 % ), NSE: Rs. 20.00 ( 4.71 % )
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There will be a huge volatility this week in the market....

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Posted by : ifci_rocky

Wall Street turns to consumer to gauge economy
Sunday November 9, 6:11 pm ET
By Joe Bel Bruno, AP Business Writer

Investors await Wal-Mart earnings, retail sales report for insight into economy


NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street heads into another turbulent week with investors set to pore over a government report on retail sales and earnings from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. to get a better reading on the consumer.

There are growing signs that the deepening economic slowdown has caused Americans to tighten their purse strings. There was fresh evidence of this past week when retailers posted the worst October same-store sales in 35 years -- and analysts believe the upcoming holiday shopping season could be among the slowest in decades.

With consumer spending driving more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy, investors will be paying close attention to earnings outlooks for some of the nation`s biggest retailers. Wal-Mart, the nation`s biggest retail chain, will post results on Thursday. Kohl`s Corp., JCPenney Co., Macy`s Inc., and Abercrombie & Fitch Co. are scheduled to release reports as well.

Investors will get an overall picture of consumer spending on Friday when the Commerce Department releases its October retail sales index. The closely watched gauge is expected to show sales dropping 1.2 percent for the month after falling 1.2 percent in September. Excluding the battered automobile industry, sales are expected to have fallen 0.9 percent.

The market, still trying to recover from October`s devastating losses, will likely zigzag as investors react to these reports. This has been the pattern during the past few weeks, with major indexes swinging from one extreme to another in capricious trading.

Many analysts believe this volatility is part of a bottoming-out process. The real test is to see in the coming days if investors have already priced in the potential for negative news or if fear of a protracted recession will trigger another stream of selling.

"The news is going to be really bad, and that shouldn`t be a surprise to investors," said Peter Cohan, principal of Peter S. Cohan & Associates. "But, I`m feeling uncomfortable that the market is a daily mood ring for the economy. The small investors are largely out of the market, and what you end up with is a small number of very large players making decisions."

Cohan pins the volatility on hedge funds, pension funds, and big university endowments unloading stocks to raise collateral and scooping up undervalued stocks to seize opportunity. He believes this will eventually result in a more stable trading environment that will lure retail investors back, and add stability to major indexes.

Hedge funds could come to center stage this week if they receive another wave of redemption requests from investors. The upcoming Nov. 15 deadline for redemptions could cause further instability in the market, Cohan said.

Wall Street had enjoyed its biggest Election Day rally in history last Tuesday, but could not cling to those gains. This was followed by a two-day loss of about 10 percent in the major indexes, including a 929-point drop in the Dow, as investors turned their focus once more to the economy`s woes.

For the week, the Dow Jones industrial average and broader benchmarks such as the Standard & Poor`s 500 index lost about 4 percent after surging 10 percent or more the week before. Technical analysts are keeping a close eye on all the data this week, with continued concerns that the Dow will test its Oct. 10 intraday low of 7,882.51.

Stock futures trading early Sunday evening showed a slightly positive start for the markets. S&P 500 futures gained 0.83 percent, while Nasdaq 100 futures rose 0.66 percent.

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10 Nov 2008 06:57

TARGET RS 50 AGAIN

Posted by : ifci_rocky
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 20.00 ( 4.71 % ), NSE: Rs. 20.00 ( 4.71 % )
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Oct tally: NSE deactivates 95 trading terminals

10 Nov 2008, 0447 hrs IST, Santosh Nair, ET Bureau

MUMBAI: The National Stock Exchange deactivated trading terminals of 95 broker members in the equity derivatives segment in October, for their
failure to meet margin obligations. This is nearly 11% of the total strength of 885 members on NSE.

Some of them include IFCI Financial Services, Khandwala Securities, Dimensional Securities and Finquest Securities. This is the second-highest number of deactivations in a single month, after January this year when 372 brokers’ terminals were deactivated.

Markets were unusually volatile in October, with the benchmark index Sensex swinging between a high of 11870 and a three-year low of 7697. Of the 95 brokers whose terminals were deactivated, 19 members’ screens were switched off between 3 and 7 times during the month. Deactivation of terminals is part of the risk management measures taken by the exchange to avoid payment defaults in the system. The terminals are shut down when the broker fails to meet his margin requirements to the exchange, and are reactivated once the margins are paid up.

In October, as was the case in January too, share prices plunged suddenly, giving clients and brokers very little time to replenish the margin funds. “When the market is falling 800 to 1000 points every day, and in an environment when liquidity is already scarce, it is difficult to expect smaller broking firms to meet their margin obligations promptly,” said a BSE broker.

Market watchers say one reason why the deactivations were relatively low compared to January, is that traders’ exposure to the equity derivatives segment was much lower. Since January, trading volumes in the derivatives has been slipping, as sharp price swings and lack of liquidity led to many traders suffering huge losses. In November, daily average volume in the futures and option segment have been around Rs 35,000 crore.

As far as deactivations go, brokers said the problem was partly due to lack of a strong Real Times Gross Settlement (RTGS) system, which would allow clients to immediately credit margin payments into their brokers’ account. At present, clients in most small towns do not have access to this facility. Even if the client immediately gives a cheque to his broker, it would take at least two days for the cheque to be clear and the amount credited. The other problem is with brokers not collecting adequate margins from their clients. While broking houses do collect deposits from their F&O clients, it is usually a security deposit and not a margin deposit.
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TARGET RS 50 AGAIN

Posted by : KARUNAS

Hi Harish,
Now the GOI will take time, may till the market sentiment improves, a fresh bid towards stake sales, and, even then the previous offer cannot be matched for a long time to come, and hence no stake sales.

10 Nov 2008 06:49

Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : ifci_rocky
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 20.00 ( 4.71 % ), NSE: Rs. 20.00 ( 4.71 % )
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continued....
Investors await Wal-Mart earnings, retail sales report for insight into economy
There are a number of other reports on tap that might give more insight into the economy. On Thursday, Wall Street gets readings on the labor market and trade deficit, followed by a look at consumer sentiment on Friday. Trading on Tuesday could be more subdued with the bond market and some banks closed due to Veterans Day.

Additionally, investors are watching for developments with General Motors Corp., Chrysler and Ford Motor Co. after the automakers met with Congressional leaders last week to secure financial help.

Democratic leaders in Congress asked the Bush administration on Saturday to provide more aid to the struggling auto industry, which is bleeding cash and jobs as sales have dropped to their lowest level in a quarter-century. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said in a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson that the administration should consider expanding the $700 billion bailout to include car companies.

"We must safeguard the interests of American taxpayers, protect the hundreds of thousands of automobile workers and retirees, stop the erosion of our manufacturing base, and bolster our economy," Pelosi, D-Calif., and Reid, D-Nev., wrote.

Even more news might be generated out of Washington with the possible selection of a new Treasury secretary by President-elect Barack Obama. He has already identified that the economy is the new administration`s biggest priority, and a Treasury pick could lift stocks.

Among those being considered for the post include former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, Federal Reserve Bank of New York President Timothy Geithner, and former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker.

...

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Decoupling days are coming ahead.........

Posted by : ifci_rocky

Wall Street turns to consumer to gauge economy
Sunday November 9, 6:11 pm ET
By Joe Bel Bruno, AP Business Writer

Investors await Wal-Mart earnings, retail sales report for insight into economy


NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street heads into another turbulent week with investors set to pore over a government report on retail sales and earnings from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. to get a better reading on the consumer.

There are growing signs that the deepening economic slowdown has caused Americans to tighten their purse strings. There was fresh evidence of this past week when retailers posted the worst October same-store sales in 35 years -- and analysts believe the upcoming holiday shopping season could be among the slowest in decades.

With consumer spending driving more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy, investors will be paying close attention to earnings outlooks for some of the nation`s biggest retailers. Wal-Mart, the nation`s biggest retail chain, will post results on Thursday. Kohl`s Corp., JCPenney Co., Macy`s Inc., and Abercrombie & Fitch Co. are scheduled to release reports as well.

Investors will get an overall picture of consumer spending on Friday when the Commerce Department releases its October retail sales index. The closely watched gauge is expected to show sales dropping 1.2 percent for the month after falling 1.2 percent in September. Excluding the battered automobile industry, sales are expected to have fallen 0.9 percent.

The market, still trying to recover from October`s devastating losses, will likely zigzag as investors react to these reports. This has been the pattern during the past few weeks, with major indexes swinging from one extreme to another in capricious trading.

Many analysts believe this volatility is part of a bottoming-out process. The real test is to see in the coming days if investors have already priced in the potential for negative news or if fear of a protracted recession will trigger another stream of selling.

"The news is going to be really bad, and that shouldn`t be a surprise to investors," said Peter Cohan, principal of Peter S. Cohan & Associates. "But, I`m feeling uncomfortable that the market is a daily mood ring for the economy. The small investors are largely out of the market, and what you end up with is a small number of very large players making decisions."

Cohan pins the volatility on hedge funds, pension funds, and big university endowments unloading stocks to raise collateral and scooping up undervalued stocks to seize opportunity. He believes this will eventually result in a more stable trading environment that will lure retail investors back, and add stability to major indexes.

Hedge funds could come to center stage this week if they receive another wave of redemption requests from investors. The upcoming Nov. 15 deadline for redemptions could cause further instability in the market, Cohan said.

Wall Street had enjoyed its biggest Election Day rally in history last Tuesday, but could not cling to those gains. This was followed by a two-day loss of about 10 percent in the major indexes, including a 929-point drop in the Dow, as investors turned their focus once more to the economy`s woes.

For the week, the Dow Jones industrial average and broader benchmarks such as the Standard & Poor`s 500 index lost about 4 percent after surging 10 percent or more the week before. Technical analysts are keeping a close eye on all the data this week, with continued concerns that the Dow will test its Oct. 10 intraday low of 7,882.51.

Stock futures trading early Sunday evening showed a slightly positive start for the markets. S&P 500 futures gained 0.83 percent, while Nasdaq 100 futures rose 0.66 percent.

continued

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