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Reliance Petroleum

Belongs to: Refineries
Buy, Sell or Hold? 872 comments
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BSE: 532743
NSE: RPL
75.75  -4.05 (-5.08)
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11 Nov 2008 20:52

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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The time factor I cannot say. If the market continues to show bearish trend, it may be within a few weeks only....

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : ar_akm

Hi vkk43, RPL is moving within limits, not to much move upward as seen earlier. I also feel that RPL will achieve the target as suggested by you, But it has to see how much it will take time?

11 Nov 2008 20:49

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : ar_akm
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Hi vkk43, RPL is moving within limits, not to much move upward as seen earlier. I also feel that RPL will achieve the target as suggested by you, But it has to see how much it will take time?...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : vkk43

You will get RPL shares in the market around 60/62 in near term. Wait patiently.

11 Nov 2008 20:00

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Be & Make ; Please advise on what was the Refining Margins 15 Years ago ? was it .001 Cents per Barrel or 0.10 cents per barrel !
TraderHorn...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make

Dear KI - More than this “15 year low Refining margins” is the utmost `fear factor` for the RPL along with your two reasons.
with thanks
be and make

11 Nov 2008 19:10

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : gandabaccha
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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dear chief,
i fear it may not happen as per your wishes of seeing a higher crude..u may see RIL cracking up in next 3-4 trading days and subsequently RPL also....

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : chief_kamani

Be and Make-Commodity cycles keep changing!!!After high there is a low and vice/versa!!So there could be change in prices by Jan/Feb 09 as OPEC wants prices to go up !!

11 Nov 2008 18:37

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : vkk43
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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You will get RPL shares in the market around 60/62 in near term. Wait patiently....

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make

dear chief - You are not accepting facts, RIL officials told that chevron is offloading its stake:

Thursday, October 23, 2008
Chevron to offload stake in RPL: Sources
Chevron is set to offload its 5 per cent stake in RPL to RIL, after marketing talks between the US oil company and RIL failed, sources told NDTV.

It is learnt that the stake sale would happen at RPL’s IPO price of Rs 60 a share.

Also, deepening the RIL-Chevron divide was the issue over RIL using Shell’s technology and RIL’s sale of RPL stake in 2007, sources said.

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Then it is very bad news for the Reliance, it has to look into the new marketing areas, which will further affect the margins.
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with thanks
be and make

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source:http: //stockstowin.blogspot.c om/2008/10/chevron-to-offload-stake-in-rpl-sources.html

11 Nov 2008 17:53

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : chief_kamani
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Be and Make-Commodity cycles keep changing!!!After high there is a low and vice/versa!!So there could be change in prices by Jan/Feb 09 as OPEC wants prices to go up !!...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make

Dear KI - More than this “15 year low Refining margins” is the utmost `fear factor` for the RPL along with your two reasons.
with thanks
be and make

11 Nov 2008 17:32

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : chief_kamani
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Be and Make-Very good they are selling that small stake!!May be looking into new marketing areas,may esult to better opportunities!!They are doing an excellent job in Africa!!Shell is excellent!!...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make

dear chief - You are not accepting facts, RIL officials told that chevron is offloading its stake:

Thursday, October 23, 2008
Chevron to offload stake in RPL: Sources
Chevron is set to offload its 5 per cent stake in RPL to RIL, after marketing talks between the US oil company and RIL failed, sources told NDTV.

It is learnt that the stake sale would happen at RPL’s IPO price of Rs 60 a share.

Also, deepening the RIL-Chevron divide was the issue over RIL using Shell’s technology and RIL’s sale of RPL stake in 2007, sources said.

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Then it is very bad news for the Reliance, it has to look into the new marketing areas, which will further affect the margins.
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with thanks
be and make

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source:http: //stockstowin.blogspot.c om/2008/10/chevron-to-offload-stake-in-rpl-sources.html

11 Nov 2008 16:54

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Dear KI - More than this “15 year low Refining margins” is the utmost `fear factor` for the RPL along with your two reasons.
with thanks
be and make
...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : KotakInvestment

RPL-

Two reasons.

Comissioning is delayed.And may delay more.
Chevron may sell stake holding 5 %

68-78 Can be the target in panic...

11 Nov 2008 16:49

rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : Be and Make
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Dear manju - please go through my blog and select the RPL label there you can get all the news about the RPL.

Regarding 2-3% margin - That’s the real worrying factor for every analyst. Now, we have to observe how long this lower margin persists. If they sustains in this range then refinery stocks should bite the dust.

With thanks
Be and make
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rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : manju_berlin

Dear Be and make

Can you please explain us what will be the case of the RPL plant if they start production in next April 2009(if they start). The refineries inside RPL plant will effect?.
To make my question clean:: The petroleum refinery and polypropylene plant will effect the production .. Do they have enough demand?!!

Is this can happen’? :: If they start running the petroleum refinery they will run the by product of polypropylene plant as it is only by-product of refinery. Shut the other RIL refinery as per the demand.
I think in that case they must merge other wise RIL will not accept this 

What will be RPL share cost on 2-3% margin ?

Thanks

11 Nov 2008 16:40

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : deepvarma1975
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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when will chevron move out?...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make

dear chief - You are not accepting facts, RIL officials told that chevron is offloading its stake:

Thursday, October 23, 2008
Chevron to offload stake in RPL: Sources
Chevron is set to offload its 5 per cent stake in RPL to RIL, after marketing talks between the US oil company and RIL failed, sources told NDTV.

It is learnt that the stake sale would happen at RPL’s IPO price of Rs 60 a share.

Also, deepening the RIL-Chevron divide was the issue over RIL using Shell’s technology and RIL’s sale of RPL stake in 2007, sources said.

---
Then it is very bad news for the Reliance, it has to look into the new marketing areas, which will further affect the margins.
---
with thanks
be and make

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source:http: //stockstowin.blogspot.c om/2008/10/chevron-to-offload-stake-in-rpl-sources.html

11 Nov 2008 16:19

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : Be and Make
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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dear chief - You are not accepting facts, RIL officials told that chevron is offloading its stake:

Thursday, October 23, 2008
Chevron to offload stake in RPL: Sources
Chevron is set to offload its 5 per cent stake in RPL to RIL, after marketing talks between the US oil company and RIL failed, sources told NDTV.

It is learnt that the stake sale would happen at RPL’s IPO price of Rs 60 a share.

Also, deepening the RIL-Chevron divide was the issue over RIL using Shell’s technology and RIL’s sale of RPL stake in 2007, sources said.

---
Then it is very bad news for the Reliance, it has to look into the new marketing areas, which will further affect the margins.
---
with thanks
be and make

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source:http: //stockstowin.blogspot.c om/2008/10/chevron-to-offload-stake-in-rpl-sources.html...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : chief_kamani

Comissioning will take place!!Chevron should not sell stake holding,as they are doing well and are not FII`s in need for cash!!They are long term investors!!

11 Nov 2008 16:08

rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : manju_berlin
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.25 ( -7.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.20 ( -7.12 % )
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Dear Be and make

Can you please explain us what will be the case of the RPL plant if they start production in next April 2009(if they start). The refineries inside RPL plant will effect?.
To make my question clean:: The petroleum refinery and polypropylene plant will effect the production .. Do they have enough demand?!!

Is this can happen’? :: If they start running the petroleum refinery they will run the by product of polypropylene plant as it is only by-product of refinery. Shut the other RIL refinery as per the demand.
I think in that case they must merge other wise RIL will not accept this 

What will be RPL share cost on 2-3% margin ?

Thanks
...

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rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : Be and Make

dear Dear mars – Yes, RPL is one of the highly efficient refinery but the problem is not how efficient is it is the problem is that we are going to have very very low refining margins. Last sep they are around 5-7% whereas RIL maintained somewhat better number due to inventory gains. But, in oct they globally they are at 2-3% then what will be the RILs numbers? There is huge demand destruction to the crude which is very bad news for the refineries.
Not only to the refineries, petchem wing also the suffering thing for RIL due to that it already accepted the VRS scheme of 500 employees and it shut the 5 plants out of 7.

So, we are going to see much bad news in these counters

Happy investing
With thanks
Be and make

11 Nov 2008 15:16

rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : chief_kamani
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.30 ( -6.95 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.70 ( -6.55 % )
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Be and Make-Buy GOI wants growth!!
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rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : Be and Make

dear chief - All the governments around the world are coming with the "rescue plans" which can only give relief from bailouts. They are not poised to boost the growth they are meant to give some relief ONLY.

with thanks
be and make

11 Nov 2008 15:14

rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : Be and Make
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.20 ( -7.07 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.70 ( -6.55 % )
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dear chief - All the governments around the world are coming with the "rescue plans" which can only give relief from bailouts. They are not poised to boost the growth they are meant to give some relief ONLY.

with thanks
be and make
...

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rpl @ 50 -130

Posted by : chief_kamani

Be and Make-I am prepared to bet on a swift change of business cycle as World Wide Governments are coming out with generous programmes to boost growth!!

11 Nov 2008 14:58

Will RPL go down......

Posted by : chief_kamani
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 82.15 ( -7.12 % ), NSE: Rs. 82.50 ( -6.78 % )
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Comissioning will take place!!Chevron should not sell stake holding,as they are doing well and are not FII`s in need for cash!!They are long term investors!!...

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Will RPL go down......

Posted by : KotakInvestment

RPL-

Two reasons.

Comissioning is delayed.And may delay more.
Chevron may sell stake holding 5 %

68-78 Can be the target in panic...

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