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Good one and well said...
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knair
GV,
I am sure of it.
Almost all of us would like to be in plus (+) not in minus (-). It means that most of us are positive in nature. But why should we get unblanced when we come to (-). It is just a vertical line away.
knair
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GV,
I am sure of it.
Almost all of us would like to be in plus (+) not in minus (-). It means that most of us are positive in nature. But why should we get unblanced when we come to (-). It is just a vertical line away.
knair...
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gv
knair,
We all now waiting for that golden day
Sone ki chidiya jaroor ayegee!!!!
The last 2 lines--I will not be surprised
Regds
GV
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Ramki,
That anger is kept alive-Mohram...
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Ramki
Hey radhika......ROTG might not be knowing this.....According to one of my christian friend following is published in Bible in the old version of Bible(before the birth of Christe).....which is as follows:
"Abraham(Christe`s father)alongwith his wife prayed to the Almighty that they should have child as they did not have for several years..Years had passed but there are no signs of child...but Abraham`s wife did not lose heart and still prayed to GOD. In the meanwhile Abraham had connection with his lady servant and she got pregant and the child and after those who born are muslims"
is what he said...though I am not sure about that but I don`t think he will tell lie on this as he clearly says it`s published in the old version of Bible..Probably those Christians got converted to Islam might still believe they are son of Abraham and still are christians..
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knair,
We all now waiting for that golden day
Sone ki chidiya jaroor ayegee!!!!
The last 2 lines--I will not be surprised
Regds
GV
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Posted by :
knair
Radhika Madam,
The 3 L loss is whar I see on paper, which a few months back was 3L profit. I want to blame somebody for this but see nobody before me for that. So I would take the blame on me.
When we are in the stock mkt, we have to play the game. So we will see red after green and vise-versa. I am sure of booking profit, one day. When I don`t know but optimist all the time.
The loss or profit is personal. That doesn`t upset my balance. But the Pakistani flag in Assam is giving me pain. Perhaps, Lalu and Mulayam may be congratulating those who hoisted the flag. Our enemies are within the fence.
knair
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Hey radhika......ROTG might not be knowing this.....According to one of my christian friend following is published in Bible in the old version of Bible(before the birth of Christe).....which is as follows:
"Abraham(Christe`s father)alongwith his wife prayed to the Almighty that they should have child as they did not have for several years..Years had passed but there are no signs of child...but Abraham`s wife did not lose heart and still prayed to GOD. In the meanwhile Abraham had connection with his lady servant and she got pregant and the child and after those who born are muslims"
is what he said...though I am not sure about that but I don`t think he will tell lie on this as he clearly says it`s published in the old version of Bible..Probably those Christians got converted to Islam might still believe they are son of Abraham and still are christians.....
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radhika_nandlal
pss,
How come such mass conversion to Islam? ROTG says Islam does not believe in conversions.
How come all the christians have converted to Islam. Whats the reason? We should ask ROTG.
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Ramki,
I did not know Chennai have spit law
hmm... Banersi pan can turn out to be bad experience !!!!
Take care
GV...
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Ramki
Hey gv......U are absolutely right....... Something good happens these tv channels will say it had happened only due to their hard work.....But if something bad happens they blame the central or state govt....citing law and order problems.......Ha.....Ha.....Ha....Ha....
Let us introspect with a petty law and order problem issue.....For example in chennai there is a rule that if u spit on public place u will be fined Rs.200 or so......But I have not come across even a single person fined for spiting as the spiting habit does not seem to have changed even after this imposing fine...... In this instead of blaming the police.....why not the public stop spiting on the public place...U can`t post a cop for each and every person is reality..ROFL
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A child can be ofcourse touched by another woman more than her mama and that is possible in today`s world!!
All minority institutions have a fixed quota for their own caste students and that is nothing new for Christians!!
Why did not these radicals not develop educational institutes of repute so they do not have to have a try at the institutions run by missinories. Now when time has run out no use shouting over with one`s voice showing money, political, and physical strength to humilate a minority community!!
Taking law into one`s hands giving frivolous reasons is not acceptable in modern society!! Use tactics within the laws of the land!!...
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radhika_nandlal
Morningstar,
So since our Sadhus were deep in meditation you converted? I better inform my kids not to go deep in meditation lest the neighbor says I AM UR PAPA to his kid??
So the govt had no role to play, the sadhus should have looked after the welfare of those who were downtrodden? Why the govt dint think it neecesary to play a role.
Touched by faith is fine. Even a child will be touched by the kindness of a woman around home but she will never be able to replace her mama.... and no one will try doing such things no matter how much they love the child. The nanny at best compensates the absence of Mama but never claims the role of her mama.
okay ya chalo... what more do u want to obliterate from the Indian Culture? Our religious scriptures are mocked at, our people are converted with goodies, our sadhus and saints are mocked at, our land is taken by all missionaries for schools and colleges and 90% of seats reserved for the christian faith.....anything else u want.. Would u be happy if all of us converted? Let us know.. we will all jump in the pacific ocean so u dont have to see us anymore.
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Radhika Madam,
The 3 L loss is whar I see on paper, which a few months back was 3L profit. I want to blame somebody for this but see nobody before me for that. So I would take the blame on me.
When we are in the stock mkt, we have to play the game. So we will see red after green and vise-versa. I am sure of booking profit, one day. When I don`t know but optimist all the time.
The loss or profit is personal. That doesn`t upset my balance. But the Pakistani flag in Assam is giving me pain. Perhaps, Lalu and Mulayam may be congratulating those who hoisted the flag. Our enemies are within the fence.
knair...
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radhika_nandlal
knair,
Honestly the flag in assam is an indication of things to happen in tribal areas... We are doomed by this missionary work.
However 3L loss is quite significant but i bet everybody has had a dent in their portfolio. So keep smiling. Long term means a lot of tears with a big cheez in the end. LOL
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Also please let us know are there are no poor people among muslims ? Why cant the missionaries show some of their god given mercy and uplift these downtrodden muslims also. Will they dare do that.
Are we not right in construing that these missionaries are misusing their liberties when they resort to conversion by denigrating our gods and the same is admitted to by a catholic priest. when u go to war there are no rules to play by, the geneva convention applies postfacto and not on the battlefield. Dont want repercussions dont throw stones. Its as simple as that. ...
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morningstar
Sadhus and mahatmas and Godmen have literally taken India backwards with their various dogmas, rituals, myths and what not. All these 60 years they were busy meditating. But in the meantime some community ppl developed immense capacities like hospitals, educations of calibre, and social service institutions. Any individual touched by any of these selfless services would have had the full right to get converted, the right to which is guaranteed in the Indian Constitution. Do not try to pass these serious conversions off as forced or induced conversions. Scores of tribal villages untouched by these Godmen (who like to have their headquarters around rich villages and towns) have been given decent amount of education and have got employment and are now in position to be selfsufficient. Is is wrong to improve the quality of one`s life? And if in that process he finds the other religion better in having him peace of mind and body why not get converted? This is not forced conversion. The Bajrangees could have resorted to counter inducements to bring back these so called mass converts back into their fold. It would be even better if Muslim, Christan, and Hindu missinoraies going on a charity and inducement spree to get the maximum converts into their fold. In that way at least India could have improved dramatically!!
Applying the conditions and parameter operational 400 years ago to today`s 21st century context would be sheer madness. Don`t think even tribals and nomads in India are fools to get converted unless they are touched by the religion in more way than one!!
Don`t fan fundamental elements and give justification to acts of a nun being raped and made to roam in naked. Todays newsreports state of tribals made to force to eat cowdung and forcibly converted to Hinduism. For what purpose?? Do you think this force will prevail for long. Remember water finds its own level. More sooner than later things will stabilize and these reconverts will shun the religion coz of the sheer brutal forces that were used to force convert them!!
This is not a question of religion but of ethics and morality. Acting like animals and feudals in the name of religion does not bring any good name but more hate for these fundamentalists groups!!
Cheers!!
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pss,
The bottom line is they say IF YOU WANT ALL THIS CONVERT.
Thats the line doing the trick for them. Let them.
I bet no god not even their own god is going to acknowledge their activites one bit if at all gods existed..
But if the combined wrath of people and unseen forces transforms itself as Divine retribution, they will have it one day from an unknown force coz they dared to change the fabric of a land that followed the policy of LIVE AND LET LIVE and disrespected their religous heritage....
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pss5588
The rosary business is just another one of their rituals which rotg may be able to throw light on, probably copied from some pagan world just as the trinity was introduced to increase followers in the early days. Reminds me of the hindu custom of rudraksha and what sages used it for was probably to keep count and also for its gemmology properties. rotg knows fully well what all pagan culture has crept or was retained in christianity for the sake of followers numbers game.
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And remember morningstar,
There are many many NGOS who are playing a great role in lending that hand without spiritual politics the missionaries resort to and without enticing them with goodies. They make them learn how to fish and respect the individuality of every soul. They dont make xerox copies of hapless helpless soul with any religious stamp.
Remember the missionary who converts and the religion which convets is a FUNDAMENTALIST GROUP and not the one who revolts.
The one who revolts has been provoked....
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morningstar
Sadhus and mahatmas and Godmen have literally taken India backwards with their various dogmas, rituals, myths and what not. All these 60 years they were busy meditating. But in the meantime some community ppl developed immense capacities like hospitals, educations of calibre, and social service institutions. Any individual touched by any of these selfless services would have had the full right to get converted, the right to which is guaranteed in the Indian Constitution. Do not try to pass these serious conversions off as forced or induced conversions. Scores of tribal villages untouched by these Godmen (who like to have their headquarters around rich villages and towns) have been given decent amount of education and have got employment and are now in position to be selfsufficient. Is is wrong to improve the quality of one`s life? And if in that process he finds the other religion better in having him peace of mind and body why not get converted? This is not forced conversion. The Bajrangees could have resorted to counter inducements to bring back these so called mass converts back into their fold. It would be even better if Muslim, Christan, and Hindu missinoraies going on a charity and inducement spree to get the maximum converts into their fold. In that way at least India could have improved dramatically!!
Applying the conditions and parameter operational 400 years ago to today`s 21st century context would be sheer madness. Don`t think even tribals and nomads in India are fools to get converted unless they are touched by the religion in more way than one!!
Don`t fan fundamental elements and give justification to acts of a nun being raped and made to roam in naked. Todays newsreports state of tribals made to force to eat cowdung and forcibly converted to Hinduism. For what purpose?? Do you think this force will prevail for long. Remember water finds its own level. More sooner than later things will stabilize and these reconverts will shun the religion coz of the sheer brutal forces that were used to force convert them!!
This is not a question of religion but of ethics and morality. Acting like animals and feudals in the name of religion does not bring any good name but more hate for these fundamentalists groups!!
Cheers!!
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definitely those who are forcibly reconverted is a useless thing. I have refrained from dealing with orissa for this thread pertains to karnataka which is not orissa. Newspapers are in the business of selling news and they reproduce frequently only the attack on churches in karnataka but not the admission by the mangalore priest that the denigration of hindu gods was done by a christian sect which is also causing interfaith problems for them too. Does ethics and morality have no place in this aspect. ...
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morningstar
Sadhus and mahatmas and Godmen have literally taken India backwards with their various dogmas, rituals, myths and what not. All these 60 years they were busy meditating. But in the meantime some community ppl developed immense capacities like hospitals, educations of calibre, and social service institutions. Any individual touched by any of these selfless services would have had the full right to get converted, the right to which is guaranteed in the Indian Constitution. Do not try to pass these serious conversions off as forced or induced conversions. Scores of tribal villages untouched by these Godmen (who like to have their headquarters around rich villages and towns) have been given decent amount of education and have got employment and are now in position to be selfsufficient. Is is wrong to improve the quality of one`s life? And if in that process he finds the other religion better in having him peace of mind and body why not get converted? This is not forced conversion. The Bajrangees could have resorted to counter inducements to bring back these so called mass converts back into their fold. It would be even better if Muslim, Christan, and Hindu missinoraies going on a charity and inducement spree to get the maximum converts into their fold. In that way at least India could have improved dramatically!!
Applying the conditions and parameter operational 400 years ago to today`s 21st century context would be sheer madness. Don`t think even tribals and nomads in India are fools to get converted unless they are touched by the religion in more way than one!!
Don`t fan fundamental elements and give justification to acts of a nun being raped and made to roam in naked. Todays newsreports state of tribals made to force to eat cowdung and forcibly converted to Hinduism. For what purpose?? Do you think this force will prevail for long. Remember water finds its own level. More sooner than later things will stabilize and these reconverts will shun the religion coz of the sheer brutal forces that were used to force convert them!!
This is not a question of religion but of ethics and morality. Acting like animals and feudals in the name of religion does not bring any good name but more hate for these fundamentalists groups!!
Cheers!!
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Morningstar,
So since our Sadhus were deep in meditation you converted? I better inform my kids not to go deep in meditation lest the neighbor says I AM UR PAPA to his kid??
So the govt had no role to play, the sadhus should have looked after the welfare of those who were downtrodden? Why the govt dint think it neecesary to play a role.
Touched by faith is fine. Even a child will be touched by the kindness of a woman around home but she will never be able to replace her mama.... and no one will try doing such things no matter how much they love the child. The nanny at best compensates the absence of Mama but never claims the role of her mama.
okay ya chalo... what more do u want to obliterate from the Indian Culture? Our religious scriptures are mocked at, our people are converted with goodies, our sadhus and saints are mocked at, our land is taken by all missionaries for schools and colleges and 90% of seats reserved for the christian faith.....anything else u want.. Would u be happy if all of us converted? Let us know.. we will all jump in the pacific ocean so u dont have to see us anymore....
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Catholics, Karnataka and BJP
Posted by :
morningstar
Sadhus and mahatmas and Godmen have literally taken India backwards with their various dogmas, rituals, myths and what not. All these 60 years they were busy meditating. But in the meantime some community ppl developed immense capacities like hospitals, educations of calibre, and social service institutions. Any individual touched by any of these selfless services would have had the full right to get converted, the right to which is guaranteed in the Indian Constitution. Do not try to pass these serious conversions off as forced or induced conversions. Scores of tribal villages untouched by these Godmen (who like to have their headquarters around rich villages and towns) have been given decent amount of education and have got employment and are now in position to be selfsufficient. Is is wrong to improve the quality of one`s life? And if in that process he finds the other religion better in having him peace of mind and body why not get converted? This is not forced conversion. The Bajrangees could have resorted to counter inducements to bring back these so called mass converts back into their fold. It would be even better if Muslim, Christan, and Hindu missinoraies going on a charity and inducement spree to get the maximum converts into their fold. In that way at least India could have improved dramatically!!
Applying the conditions and parameter operational 400 years ago to today`s 21st century context would be sheer madness. Don`t think even tribals and nomads in India are fools to get converted unless they are touched by the religion in more way than one!!
Don`t fan fundamental elements and give justification to acts of a nun being raped and made to roam in naked. Todays newsreports state of tribals made to force to eat cowdung and forcibly converted to Hinduism. For what purpose?? Do you think this force will prevail for long. Remember water finds its own level. More sooner than later things will stabilize and these reconverts will shun the religion coz of the sheer brutal forces that were used to force convert them!!
This is not a question of religion but of ethics and morality. Acting like animals and feudals in the name of religion does not bring any good name but more hate for these fundamentalists groups!!
Cheers!!
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Hey gv......U are absolutely right....... Something good happens these tv channels will say it had happened only due to their hard work.....But if something bad happens they blame the central or state govt....citing law and order problems.......Ha.....Ha.....Ha....Ha....
Let us introspect with a petty law and order problem issue.....For example in chennai there is a rule that if u spit on public place u will be fined Rs.200 or so......But I have not come across even a single person fined for spiting as the spiting habit does not seem to have changed even after this imposing fine...... In this instead of blaming the police.....why not the public stop spiting on the public place...U can`t post a cop for each and every person is reality..ROFL ...
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gv
Hi Ramki,
This what i was feeling for many months
The media ,these private English channels are creating news
"We the people of India","the big fight" programme create sensationalism
The anchors,the big names are very unprofessional
In one programme, one panelist said "i don`t mind taking gun"
Most of the time shouting match
The TV company did not fit enough to escort a journalist in the late night,
She got killed in Delhi,but they were blaming the govt
As if they have no obligation to provide security in such circumstances
The regulator is turning blind eye
These channel`s are worried about only TRP
Regds
GV
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The rosary business is just another one of their rituals which rotg may be able to throw light on, probably copied from some pagan world just as the trinity was introduced to increase followers in the early days. Reminds me of the hindu custom of rudraksha and what sages used it for was probably to keep count and also for its gemmology properties. rotg knows fully well what all pagan culture has crept or was retained in christianity for the sake of followers numbers game....
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radhika_nandlal
pss,
I have absolutely no clue how these converts convert and spill the beans to their relations coz no one in my relation has converted and no one who has converted till now (i mean the drivers etc) have blamed brahmin atrocities in the 21st century and when the driver said he is a christian and has to go to church my baby just had no reacton and gave him the key..... so if some of our relations convert and splilt the beans the residual hindus will be as disinterested in it as GEORGE BUSH. ROFL...... God alone knows what these conversions are, who the brahmins are who drove these folks to conversion and how they convert, where they convert... do they have to wear a robe or something like graduation ceremony? Is there some symbolic representtation for conversion? Way back in 1990s when i could take no more of motherhood responsiblities my hubby appointed a maid who did a great job, but she said she has to hold the rosary in her hand when she is not working. I used to feel gulity giving her my baby when she was doing the rosary and my hubby dint know what to do... does holding the rosary mean one has become christian i dont know coz it dint occur to me to ask her.. but she would religously do the rosary, do a clean job of the chores too and she was a sweetheart... she said though that her husband had abandoned her and her child and she had no money and hence had to convert to make both ends meet.... so we allowed her to take off on Sundays to look up her child etc and allowed her to do the rosary when she was done with the chores.... but she was always sad that her husband had jilted her.... that sadness even Jesus couldnt remove....
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