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investors will take years to return....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
hembhat
Yes. timewise correction has to take place. Till that time investors will not return to the stock market. When HNIs start buying, that is the time to enter the market. I am convinced that every rise is an opportunity to exit.
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you know the reosan well.you had sending messages about nifty to touch 3600. so you know the reason. add one more in that. our financial system is on the sdge to crack.you know that sub-prime in US was started in sept 07..and market started crash here after 5 months.
now in US and europe financial orgahisations had craked. so it is obviouse that indian financial org will crash may be within six months.
but we can`t know about it now. all are hidden.
better you watch finance minister body language and his face. that speaks everything....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
hindlevernet
Hi sanjay,
Everything is possible. But nothing happens without
significant reason behind it.
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The Reserve Bank of India, or RBI, has cut the cash reserve ratio, or CRR, by 50 bps to 8.5% with effect October 11. The cut will infuse Rs 20,000 crore into the system....
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Kalidas,
Whatever you talk, dear Net loss is 1166 Points in sensex and you shall add heavy fall of today.......
I am sure you are arguing not from the bottom of your heart!!!!!!!
It shall be matter of shame to those who feel guilty of mis leading.
and that is only recourse for future progress.
have you traded ?? Post your cell no. I wanna talk to you. I bet if you have made single penny in any market.
Dear Friend,
let us close the topic..... Think twice before bluffing, is my only advice to people like you....
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SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days
Posted by :
Kalidas
Reply to lalitdeshpandey
Excellent. I was waiting for this kind of misquoted and out-of-context post. In fact, it has been practice of some of the boarders to quote me out of context all the time, just to prove them right. Now, Let me reply you by point by point.
CUT & PASTE
Show me a single instance where I have been using :Cut & Paste" technology with specific dates so that I will know whether it was me who doing that act or some other
Let us go point by point:
Kalidas : Once the Obama and McCain show the approval, other Democrats and Republican will not bother to object. After President Bush speech today, there is more than 70% possibility that the bill may be passed before Sunday.(Forecast)
Fact: Both Obama and McCain both were non-committal before house rejected the motion. When Dow fell by 778 points, and Bush invited them to White House, they became more specific and decided to support the motion. Finally, in the second vote yesterday, the motion was passed. Let the readers judge.
Among the 2400 pts rally, I have narrated 8 points. Let me take Pont no. 8 first.
Point No.8
Kalidas : This scenario is possible only if the bill is passed. For any reason the bill is delayed, almost everything will work in reverse gear. Since everyone is losing money and want the market to go higher, they will want to know so called good news (which is sugar coated saccharine) to fuel the rally.
Fact: The SENSEX behaved exactly as mentioned. My call for 2400 pts was QUALIFIED if the scenario of passage of bill in the first instance - it did not happen
Following are the factual SENSEX figures:
3-Oct-08 Friday 12,526.32 (-529)
2-Oct-08 Thursday 12,526.32 (Market closed in India only)
1-Oct-08 Wednesday 13,055.67 (+195)
30-Sep-08 Tuesday 12,860.43 (+265)
29-Sep-08 Monday 12,595.75 (-507)
26-Sep-08 Friday.. 13,102.18 (-445)
25-Sep-08 Thursday 13,547.18 Base
(My post was at 10:02 India time or 12:30 HK time)
When the Paulson Plan was rejected, my forecast came to an end. Everything worked in reverse gear. I has also mentioned that -
Kalidas: Do not think that I am bullish on the market. This is sugar coated market for brave hearts. This is purely trading scenario – Investment climate is still worsening.
Other points:
1. Dow may rise by 1200 points in 2 or 3 days due to fierce rally in Index related financial shares
Kalidas: It did not, one day down by 778 points, second day up 485 pts. Financial shares rallied by over 20% and in some cases 70% in case of small regional banks
2. Gold may plummeted by 5% to 10%
Kalidas: Gold was $902 (25Sep) Now $ 828 (2 Oct) - down $74 (-8.20%)
3. Silver may plummet by 20%
Kalidas: Now $10.85 (3Oct) $13.40 (25 Sep) down 2.60 (-19.33%)
4. Oil may drop by 10% to 15%:
Kalidas: Now $93.88 (3 Oct) $111.54 (25 Sep) down 17.66 (-15.83%)
5. Commodities may also drop due to US$ rally
Kalidas: CRB Metal sub Index 403 (3Oct) was 425 (25Sep) - Down 22 or 5.17%
6. Euro will fall most- Yen least. Rupee will slide over 3%
Kalidas: EURO: 1.3767 (3Oct) was 1.47 (25Sep) down .0933 (-6.35%)
YEN : 105.32 (3Oct) was 106.5 (25Sep) up 1.18 (+1.1%)
RUPEE: 46.98 (3Oct) was 45.90 (25Sep-Opening) Down 1.08 (-2.35%)
7. World markets may rise. SENSEX may gain by 2400 points in less than 3 days. All index heavy weight may gain significantly. (This was subject to Point 8 immediately following, IF the budget was passed at first instance, which was voted out - that turned the sentiments negative)
NOW, coming to you losing and ruined by my posting, I can only say that you never believed it. You are just bluffing. In fact you mentioned as under:
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I had posted my logic several times that even historic bull time has rarely shown such a rally in 7 days, BUT TO MY SUPRISE and TO THE SHAME OF MMB, all of my messages are deleted by you or your BLIND FOLLOWERS.
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Kalidas, Hong Kong
4-10-2008 (Contd Part II)
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AP
Russian stocks plunge by nearly 20 percent
Monday October 6, 12:38 pm ET
By Catrina Stewart, Associated Press Writer
Traders stunned as Russian stocks go into tailspin, lose nearly 20 percent
MOSCOW (AP) -- Russia`s leading stock markets suffered their biggest-ever one-day losses as shares went into free fall on the back of falling oil prices and deepening fears about the global economy despite the passage of a $700 billion U.S. bank bailout.
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Trading on MICEX -- the country`s largest index-- was shut down three times, closing down 18.6 percent to 752 points. The benchmark RTS -- where trading was halted twice -- crashed to its lowest point since August 2005, falling by 19.1 percent to 866.4 points.
"The mood is kind of disbelief. You`d think we would have gotten used to it by now," said Ron Smith, strategist at Moscow-based Alfa Bank. "Traders are just sitting there staring at the screens and going, `Wow.`"...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
raj_tibs
LOLs Jatts!
Nothing like that.. but helps to have a plan (in it for the long haul)... I want to see a U shaped recovery :-)
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nifty rally of 200 points will not come for long time but 200 pts fall will come many time....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
hindlevernet
Hi shakti,
The day Nifty lifts 200 points and dow 300 points, I will
take it as a signal of new Bull race. That day, I will start
a new thread and close this one.
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Just for info:
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That new all-time high in the VIX
Commentary: If only the VIX were a reliable contrarian indicator
By MarketWatch
(MarketWatch) -- Some contrarian-minded advisers have gotten what they`ve been hoping for -- a new all-time high in the VIX -- and are now ready to issue a buy signal.
The VIX, of course, is the CBOE`s Volatility Index (VIX:cboe volatility index vix :VIX 53.70, +8.56, +19.0%) , which many believe to be an investor fear gauge. Contrarians therefore are prone to consider any spike upwards in the VIX as a positive sign.
That`s why some contrarians may be jumping up and down for joy on Monday. Not only did the VIX spike upwards by more than 11 points early in Monday`s session (itself a record-setting jump), but the VIX itself soared to near 56, far above its previous all-time high of 45.74.
Contrarians may want to look before they leap, however. As a contrarian indicator, the VIX leaves a lot to be desired. Read July 21 column.
And other contrarian indicators are not yet showing the capitulation that a casual observer of the VIX`s new all-time high might conclude is happening Monday. Indeed, the Hulbert Stock Newsletter Sentiment Index (HSNSI) not only remains stubbornly above its all-time lowest level, but also remains well above the levels to which it fell at the July market lows.
And though the stock market wasn`t in great shape in July, compared to today the market then looks awfully attractive.
What will it take for the editor of the average short-term market-timing newsletter to throw in the towel?
The final low of this bear market probably rests on the answer.
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
vam_aru
Dear BSR,
Quote:
Latest BS views say Limited Downside and Sharp Upside Movements! :)
Let us hope better sense prevails among those Big Players!
Unquote:
If the BS views are saying limited downside and sharp movements means That markets will bedoing the opposite ... is that correct..?
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Dear BullSheetRules
Those hoarded stocks when market was around 2000-3000 level were not REAL TOM and Harry but they been dumping to REAL TOM and Harry at 6000 levels. PUMP and DUMP is of course favorite way of making MONEY....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
BullSheetRules
Dear fmcgbites,
Look at Gold market now, probably you will understand the GAME better!
Those TOM and HARRY were not BUYing all stocks when market was around 6000.
Those TOM and HARRY have hoarded those stocks when market was around 2000-3000 level. Then they PUMP the market to higher level knowing fully well about sub prime crisis in Apr 2007. :):)
That is one of the favourite way of making MONEY... PUMP and DUMP!
Gud luk & happy investing! :)
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Poverty still plagues U.S. cities: survey
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Most U.S. mayors and city officials say poverty is a growing problem, with many families unable to get by, according to a survey released on Monday.
Some 90 percent of city officials in the National League of Cities survey of mayors and leaders of towns of 30,000 people or more say that during the last decade poverty rates have either increased or stayed the same in their towns.
About a third of those participating consider poverty "a severe or serious problem" in their cities.
"More than four decades after the United States government declared `war` on poverty, the `official` 2008 poverty rate is 12.3 percent, not even 2 percent less than the 1967 figure of 14.2 per cent," the report said, adding:
"The federal poverty threshold, on which the national poverty rate is determined, however, is viewed as outdated by many, used since the 1960s and based on economic data from the 1950s based on food consumption being one third of one`s annual expenses."
Most respondents said the federal government`s poverty income threshold is significantly lower than what it takes to survive in their cities. While the federal government considers a family of three with an income below $17,170 impoverished, 30 percent of those surveyed said a family needs at least an income of $30,000 to get by in their cities.
Single-parent families, low-wage workers and senior citizens are most likely to be poor, and one-third of survey participants said that poverty is geographically dispersed throughout their cities.
While eight in 10 of those surveyed said that reducing poverty is a responsibility of city government, most also said that economic conditions beyond the cities` control are their biggest barrier to ending it.
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One begger adds another beggar
Posted by :
sambala
Treasury, as part of swift implementation of bailout, issues interim rules on hiring of money managers and conflicts of interest.
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amarw........
If you predict raly of 2400 and sensex fall 2400....
Still you are there means you are not in stock market
but in LEISURE or any Multi plex...
Trade first and then take lossed on the stupid calls.
You will realise pain of those who follows such non sense calls....
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SENSEX to rally by 2400 pts in 7 days
Posted by :
amarawargaonkar
Dear Lalit,
Stock market is not for you better sit out and enjoy the fire works from the side.
Don`t blame kalidasji you probably only read the heading of the message and bought.
If you had read all the messages of Kalidasji you would have known how bearish he is on overall markets.
Aapla paisa aaple doke lavun bazaarat lavaycha ugach dusryachya navane boomb maru nay.
Regards,
Amarawargaonkar
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How do you say bear market will end soon?
I think even price wise correction is not complete. We are still at PE 15 which is the __right__ PE. Neither too cheap not too expensive.
We will go to 2800-3200. Unless we go there, I do not think we can call ourselves bottomed out....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
hindlevernet
Dear Vicku,
Many thanks for compliments. Bear market is likely to
end soon. if it does in near future, then I will be able
to see the next peak very clearly with my EWT telescope.
As soon as I see the peak, I will start a new thread here
which may read like....................................
WILL NIFTY CROSS 7000 BEFORE 2009 END ?
Thanks again
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Step 1: Instal a dartboard
Step 2: Secure the darts safely in your hand
Step 3: Blindflod yourself real tight (mae sure not a single ray of light can reach you)
Step 4: Take a blind shot at the dartboard
Result: You will beat the median expert poll with a proability of 0.793 :-)...
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3600 gone , what NEXT ? 2755 or 4405?
Posted by :
Lalitdeshpandey
Dear Boarders and Moderators,
Most popular and live thread ,WILL Nifty Hit 3600 and Sensex 12000???
now 3600 gone , what NEXT ??
2755 or 4405 ?????
It would be of much help if few of experts can post their logical views.
(Views backed by TA or Logic )
I reuest all experts to share, including MMB Team, Udayan Mukherji, Emkay stock and most popular NIFTY MASTER, Kotak Investments...
Thanks,
lalit.
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Dear raj_tibs,
Thanks for the quick response. Actually the long options are available in Indian infoline trader terminal but not on ICICI Direct. I am somehow not very comfortable with India infoline, that is why I enquired.
Regards....
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
raj_tibs
Dear Osteoporous,
Just guessing.. you need to have the contract notes... Each FnO contract you enter into is unquely identified by the NSE! So i guess some redress should be possible.. If not with NSE, in the court of law.
Regards,
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Dear Boarders and Moderators,
Most popular and live thread ,WILL Nifty Hit 3600 and Sensex 12000???
now 3600 gone , what NEXT ??
2755 or 4405 ?????
It would be of much help if few of experts can post their logical views.
(Views backed by TA or Logic )
I reuest all experts to share, including MMB Team, Udayan Mukherji, Emkay stock and most popular NIFTY MASTER, Kotak Investments...
Thanks,
lalit....
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Treasury, as part of swift implementation of bailout, issues interim rules on hiring of money managers and conflicts of interest....
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One begger adds another beggar
Posted by :
sambala
Citigroup discloses complaint against Wachovia, Wells Fargo, seeks more than $60 billion in damages.
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