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Clariant Chemicals India
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I think you misread me. I grew up in the markets when Colgate/Castrol and the likes were the hottest stocks ... So I know they started the bonus trend. But that is past. WE have to have a basic understanding to move to next level of discussion. If I say Ravan was not too bad then you won't try to tell me the story of Ramayan because you know that I know it as well and we will discuss finer points. I assume you have understood my point. The MNCs gave bonuses to please shareholders
because the earlier governments had socialist agenda. Now with govt
itself business friendly and many businessmen getting into politics, the MNCs don't give a damn to Indian shareholders. In that sense, I said that these MNCs won't give any bonus henceforth. Most of the MNCs are cash rich - look at Novartis - one of the worst cos as far as shareholders are concerned. Do you think their business is affected because of slowdown? NO. Govt can help us by forcing these MNCs to bring either all their new investments through listed cos or delisting
and then doing whatever they want. Currently, unlisted 100% subsidiaries are getting all the new products and we are left high and dry ......
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Clarient Chem-A safe stock
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JAGDISH GABA
subodh ji,please dont tell so!its MNC only which started bonus in india,take eg colgate,hll,abb and several other cos too have given bounus in the past but this year mkts have not performed well,so every one wants to conserve funds
The sebi n clb are working on a proposal n tightening delisting norms very soon 
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subodh ji,please dont tell so!its MNC only which started bonus in india,take eg colgate,hll,abb and several other cos too have given bounus in the past but this year mkts have not performed well,so every one wants to conserve funds
The sebi n clb are working on a proposal n tightening delisting norms very soon...
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Clarient Chem-A safe stock
Posted by : subodh
No MNC (except those which have performed in the bull run like Siemens) has given any bonus. These cos don't have any reason to give bonus and please Indian shareholders. Look at BASF, MOnsanto, DIC, Ingersoll Rand.
These cos are cash rich but no bonus from them. I have been saying this for the past 3 years but people haven't lost hope of bonus :-) These MNCs will delist. We can benefit only if govt makes one good rule - not to allow MNCs to have listed cos and unlisted 100% subsidiaries in India in the same business.
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No MNC (except those which have performed in the bull run like Siemens) has given any bonus. These cos don't have any reason to give bonus and please Indian shareholders. Look at BASF, MOnsanto, DIC, Ingersoll Rand.
These cos are cash rich but no bonus from them. I have been saying this for the past 3 years but people haven't lost hope of bonus :-) These MNCs will delist. We can benefit only if govt makes one good rule - not to allow MNCs to have listed cos and unlisted 100% subsidiaries in India in the same business....
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Clarient Chem-A safe stock
Posted by : JAGDISH GABA
Although RA SHAH IS THE CHAIRMAN of the co but majority on the board are from clarient intl and the co colour chem was merged in to clariant by take over In colorchem toom51%share holding was vested with foreign collaboraters
As the reserves are robustmby all estimates it is seen that bonus may be on cards n past says so
The stock is doing well in the mkt
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Although RA SHAH IS THE CHAIRMAN of the co but majority on the board are from clarient intl and the co colour chem was merged in to clariant by take over In colorchem toom51%share holding was vested with foreign collaboraters
As the reserves are robustmby all estimates it is seen that bonus may be on cards n past says so
The stock is doing well in the mkt...
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Clarient Chem-A safe stock
Posted by : subodh
Hi Jagdish, writing after long time? Clariant was NOT known as Colour Chem. Both were separate cos. Colour Chem merged into Clariant in 2006.
The reknowned people on the board should be shot including the buddha chairman R A Shah. He is sitting on many cos whose share prices generally don't perform. He probably specializes in keeping the share prices down. Forget abput bonus, I would be happy if they behave professionally with small investors. The units in China were closed only for the olympics. So all these chemical cos will have one more good quarter till Spt. Then back to square one !!! The only way to make money here is if the co goes for delisting. I am stuck for the last 2 years
in this horrible co. Same for BASF ...
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Hi Jagdish, writing after long time? Clariant was NOT known as Colour Chem. Both were separate cos. Colour Chem merged into Clariant in 2006.
The reknowned people on the board should be shot including the buddha chairman R A Shah. He is sitting on many cos whose share prices generally don't perform. He probably specializes in keeping the share prices down. Forget abput bonus, I would be happy if they behave professionally with small investors. The units in China were closed only for the olympics. So all these chemical cos will have one more good quarter till Spt. Then back to square one !!! The only way to make money here is if the co goes for delisting. I am stuck for the last 2 years
in this horrible co. Same for BASF ......
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Clarient Chem-A safe stock
Posted by : JAGDISH GABA
Clarient chemicals was earlier known as colour chem is in to mfg of dyes &dye stuff and a leading player
After closing of such units in china,the co could raise its top line but otherwise also numbers speak well of this counter
CAPITAL:26.66CR,NET WORTH 309CR,EPS 16.68DID 100% H/L IS 355/190 CMP 237
The co has been continuously eraning robust profits except sept2008 due to extra ord item of 27cr n loss of7.59cr
The co has given 5 bonuses sine inception but last was in 1980
Net over last quarter is an addition of 80%approx,
21 lac shares are held by mutual funds
At fv of 10/-the stok looksto me a good buy for MT-LT at theCMP and a safe stok
This is almost a debt free co n has o shor term borrowings but a very small portion of term loan which too is negligible
It has foreign equity n a world renowned promoters
The board is constituted of renowned people
Although golden jubillee year,bonus oesnt seems to be on cards this year
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Clarient chemicals was earlier known as colour chem is in to mfg of dyes &dye stuff and a leading player
After closing of such units in china,the co could raise its top line but otherwise also numbers speak well of this counter
CAPITAL:26.66CR,NET WORTH 309CR,EPS 16.68DID 100% H/L IS 355/190 CMP 237
The co has been continuously eraning robust profits except sept2008 due to extra ord item of 27cr n loss of7.59cr
The co has given 5 bonuses sine inception but last was in 1980
Net over last quarter is an addition of 80%approx,
21 lac shares are held by mutual funds
At fv of 10/-the stok looksto me a good buy for MT-LT at theCMP and a safe stok
This is almost a debt free co n has o shor term borrowings but a very small portion of term loan which too is negligible
It has foreign equity n a world renowned promoters
The board is constituted of renowned people
Although golden jubillee year,bonus oesnt seems to be on cards this year...
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I mean you read it here only or you knew from elsewhere? It is not there on BSE yet ......
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Clariant Chem - BONUS OR BUYBACK
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punit1255
That is why after such Great results .... best quarter after ages. The CFO quits without notice period.
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Where did you get the news? BTW, the great results of Clariant and even Ciba are because China has stopped production at many plants due to Olympics :-) Basically, Clariant, Ciba, Albright are leftovers after prime pharma and agro chem businesses were taken away.
Nobody wanted them. There is very little chance that outsiders will buy them. These guys will have to merge/buy out each other or go
under :-) The Indian businesses are still reasonable but the problem is global businesses which are big. Huntsman bought out textile chem business of Ciba worldwide. Later Apollo group made an offer to buy Huntsman at $28 when it was quoting at $22. and they agreed. Later, Apollo Group felt they were paying too high and withdrew the offer. Now both are in court and Huntsman crashed to $10. Now it is at 14.
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Clariant Chem - BONUS OR BUYBACK
Posted by : punit1255
That is why after such Great results .... best quarter after ages. The CFO quits without notice period.
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That is why after such Great results .... best quarter after ages. The CFO quits without notice period....
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Clariant Chem - BONUS OR BUYBACK
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Old_Fox
There is some news in Clariant Chem - Is it a Golden Jubilee Year BONUS OR a BUYBACK ? That... is the million dollar question
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There is some news in Clariant Chem - Is it a Golden Jubilee Year BONUS OR a BUYBACK ? That... is the million dollar question...
NSE Announcements on Clariant
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Clariant Chemicals (India) Limited has informed the Exchange that "Mr. Sunil K. Nayak, Chief Financial Officer and Company Secretary who is Compliance Officer under clause 47 of the Listing Agreement, has resigned from the Services of the Company with effect from the close of business on August 12, 2008"....
Watch out CLARIANT India...Target 375...
Posted by : Old_FoxTracked by: 1 Boarder
Watch out CLARIANT India. The technical Charts indicate that it will be moving towards 375 shortly......
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I would rather rate Clarient as the most under valued stock. Just look at the sheer volume of business, dividend yield etc. Majority stake is held by the Swiss promoter group.It is also an investor friendly company looking at its past record of Bonuses and dividend which has never been below 100% (Rs 10/- paidup). The brand name emits sheer integrity and loads of goodwill. The performance track record is also quite decent. JUST ACCUMULATE the present market price is the lowest though it is not much affected by the depressed market conditions as there are no sellers. Try buying 500 shares at a time, I bet you won,t get it.Only a fool will sell at this level. All chances of a performance spurt, Buyback, Bonus/rights. Target Rs.600/- in 6 months. ...
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Exit Clariant
Posted by : venkat_c
Heavily over stretched and over priced stock, all the indicators MACD, Bollinger bands and Elliot waves point to a sell. Exit Clariant, I am Venkat from TRAINING8M Australia
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Heavily over stretched and over priced stock, all the indicators MACD, Bollinger bands and Elliot waves point to a sell. Exit Clariant, I am Venkat from TRAINING8M Australia...
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