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08 Jan 2009 15:06

I THINK THE BIGGEST FRAUD ON THIS MMB IS YOU MALAYALI

THE BIGGEST LIAR ON THIS PLANET. LOL

65 LAKHS HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA...

In reply to:

NIFTY = 4750 & SENSEX = 15000

Posted by : MALAYALI

Yesterday, I booked 64.5 LAKHS profit (Sold all Nify Futures BUY positions, when market opens +ive & instantly shorted the same). Yea... my luckiest day ever... ever... ever... & yesterday itself, at final closing hour, bought SATYAM`s share for 15 LAKHS. RAJU`s trck worked perfectly as calculated... yea,*****SATYAMS INVESTORS CONFIDENCE... LOST FOR EVER*****. How to use some common sense ??? RAJU ADMITS FRAUD !!! *****A FRAUD ADMITS FRAUD***** hah... hah... haa... Which FRAUD is going to admit that..... I`m a fraud ??? UNBELIEVABLE... that`s all. MALAYALI : common sense revealed

08 Jan 2009 14:56

Abdul Saleh has refrained from commenting on the effect of Satyam fiasco on the market and other shares. The fact is in view of fall in prics of all shares, banks which have lent against the shares of any company, will either call for addional margin or sell shares pledged with them. Even investors who incurred lossesin Satyam(which is unavoidable), will sell their other shares to recoup the losses. As such selling spree cannot ne avoided....

In reply to:

See acute ripple effect of Satyam fiasco: Zacks Invest

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Abdul Saleh of Zacks Investment Research feels the ripple effect of the Satyam debacle will be quite acute in the near-term. "The ripple effect will be very severe and acute especially from the point of view of due diligence and corporate governance.

08 Jan 2009 14:53

Could any one please tell where to invest? what companies to trust..? many mId cap is showing better performance than large cap.. All large cap`s r under scanner these days.....

08 Jan 2009 14:51

Stay out of Reliance group both, Hyderabad & Ahmedabad companies chances are that Satyam episode may just trigger a major accounting issues and we all know that Reliance at large are best designers of Balance Sheet and such profits are also possible with lesser and smaller known companies who in race to build wealth have artificially boost their profits.

We are in trouble times. auditors, govt & regulating authorities will grill the companies. FII will not invest in shares unless they have all the desired information and that too authenticated.

All small investors must invest in respected groups as mentioned by Mr. Narayanmurthy of Infosys.

I think one must stay out of theese companies atleast for 3/4 quaters. There are many more companies to invest in why gamble on these????

Happy Investing In 2009....

08 Jan 2009 14:46

Yesterday, I booked 64.5 LAKHS profit (Sold all Nify Futures BUY positions, when market opens +ive & instantly shorted the same). Yea... my luckiest day ever... ever... ever... & yesterday itself, at final closing hour, bought SATYAM`s share for 15 LAKHS. RAJU`s trck worked perfectly as calculated... yea,*****SATYAMS INVESTORS CONFIDENCE... LOST FOR EVER*****. How to use some common sense ??? RAJU ADMITS FRAUD !!! *****A FRAUD ADMITS FRAUD***** hah... hah... haa... Which FRAUD is going to admit that..... I`m a fraud ??? UNBELIEVABLE... that`s all. MALAYALI : common sense revealed...

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NIFTY = 4750 & SENSEX = 15000

Posted by : MALAYALI

SATYAM`s Intraday Technical Chart shows, a different story. SATYAM`s Chart, NSE:- Time: 14:14:15 : Trading at 31.00 Per Share & just after 45 Seconds... SATYAM sharp shoots to 43.00 Per Share. What is this means ??? That means... there are still INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS/TRADERS, ready to invest/trade in SATYAM from the above said levels. And finally, what happened ??? NSE SATYAM closed at 40.25 Per Share after FREEFALLING -77.51%. I`m expecting coming Friday, HUGE... HUGE... HUGE... SHORT COVERING in SATYAM`s FUTURES. MALAYALI : *****09/01/2009 : SATYAM`s Target : 75/85 Per Share*****

08 Jan 2009 14:36

kadiyali g at what price should i buy infi calls of which strick price...

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stbt : nifty fut.

Posted by : kadiyali

Dear vicky77,

Due to Satyam episode, I dont expect nifty to go beyond 3000 in
the near future. At the same time, if this Satyam virus infects
other index shares like RIL, RCom, DLF, Unitech, etc, there is
every possibility that nifty may fall below 2700 within next 7-10
trading sessions. Keeping this view in mind, try to minimise your
loss on Friday. You may also consider buying Infosys calls on
Friday to recover your loss in nifty. Rgrds.

08 Jan 2009 14:35

Satyam to hold news conference at 5.00 PM today.
Let us hope some positive news come....

In reply to:

Satyam: A cleverly crafted scam

Posted by : pup

Oracle pledges support to Satyam.
Oracle vice president Husam Dajani said on Wednesday night that Satyam can count on Oracle.

"You and the entire Satyam team can count on us to assist in every way we can to help Satyam go through the difficult time and rebuild confidence. We have built an excellent relationship and reputation and we need to work together to restore confidence and ensure that work on the existing projects is not hampered. Sriram (Papani), Ram, and Sheby (Jacob) know where to reach me if they need any support from me personally" Mr Husam .
The rebuilding process shall start and hopefully satyam may recover from trauma soon.

08 Jan 2009 14:35

Satyam Computer Services has been expelled from all equity indices of the National Stock Exchange (NSE). The decision comes in the wake of Satyam
promoter B Ramalinga Raju’s admission of accounting fraud, and the massive erosion in market capitalisation, subsequently.

Reliance Capital has replaced Satyam in the S&P CNX Nifty, while Glenmark Pharmaceuticals has come in place of Satyam in the CNX 100 index. The Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE) is yet to decide on dropping Satyam from its equity indices.

Reliance Capital has a market capitalisation of Rs 12,739 crore and would have a weightage of about 0.7 in Nifty as per the current market prices.

ET...

08 Jan 2009 14:32

Abdul Saleh of Zacks Investment Research feels the ripple effect of the Satyam debacle will be quite acute in the near-term. "The ripple effect will be very severe and acute especially from the point of view of due diligence and corporate governance. ...

08 Jan 2009 14:32

Oracle pledges support to Satyam.
Oracle vice president Husam Dajani said on Wednesday night that Satyam can count on Oracle.

"You and the entire Satyam team can count on us to assist in every way we can to help Satyam go through the difficult time and rebuild confidence. We have built an excellent relationship and reputation and we need to work together to restore confidence and ensure that work on the existing projects is not hampered. Sriram (Papani), Ram, and Sheby (Jacob) know where to reach me if they need any support from me personally" Mr Husam .
The rebuilding process shall start and hopefully satyam may recover from trauma soon....

In reply to:

Satyam: A cleverly crafted scam

Posted by : pup

“As of now, it is just a portfolio investment, but the possibility of L&T looking to buy a strategic stake cannot be completely ruled out,” said a person close to the development. “Either way, it’s a win-win for L&T. If another company decides to buy Satyam, it will benefit the portfolio purchases. But if L&T decides to acquire Satyam, it will have a strategic fit for L&T Infotech at a cheaper price.

It is believed that Satyam could be a good buy for L&T Infotech at this juncture in terms of business prospects.
“Even if half of Satyam’s clients decide to part ways, the remaining client base would be good enough for L&T Infotech,” said another person familiar with the matter. “Bringing in a good management like L&T itself can come as a relief to Satyam clients.”

Talks that regulator Sebi could resort to ‘extraordinary measures’ to assuage investor fears immediately, given the negative implications of this issue on foreign investments in the country, further fuelled the takeover speculation. ( Source: The ET)

Boarders are invited to offer comments if any on this story.



08 Jan 2009 14:20

Dear Udayan

Can you please give me a list of the companies in which Price Water House Coopers was/is an auditor or joint auditor in any of the last 5 financial years.

Also please can you as a trustee of all your viewers and also the shareholders of SatyamComputers help us filing a petition/court case whereby we can demand the auditing company to actually compensate Rs. 5800+ crs. flaw which they have left actually unaudited in Satyam`s books?

Will be expecting your reply to my message.

Regards
Vaaibhav Jhaverr
Masters in Commerce, CA
(An investors/trader in Stock markets)
Mob: 094250-52651...

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Satyam: A cleverly crafted scam

Posted by : Udayan Mukherjee

So even if there is any kind of a modest bounce in Satyam from whatever price level because people believe that the 5,000 crore of cash is still there, there is a big line of people and the Fidelity and Aberdeen’s of the world are not going to stand down with Satyam right now because of whatever cash is lying on its books. They want out and they want out like yesterday.

So this stock now has huge amount of overhead supply which just cannot be absorbed because the number of sellers far outnumbers the number of buyers in Satyam Computers at any price point. So this stock could fall to Rs 10 even if there is cash on the balance sheet because there would be a large number of institutional investors who have completely seen this lie and I do not think that they would want to hang on there at Rs 80-70 because of any kind of cash lying on its books.

This stock’s value despite the cash or the business operations right now is probably in single digit rupees. Nobody trust this, you have just broken down the trust completely, how do you believe a management which just cooked up everything from its balance sheet to its earning statement over the last many quarters and serially quarter after quarter went on national TV and reported to the exchanges one magnificent lie after another. It is just completely preposterous.

Who do you believe now?

Satyam is a company which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE); this is an index company, quarter after quarter it announces numbers which we take as gospel and we do a lot of analysis, every analyst does on whether margin slipped a bit and wage hikes happened and now you know that none of those numbers existed then who do you believe?. Do you believe auditors, who are supposed to be looking at these companies?

This is a fundamental issue of trust and faith which has been shaken. One can forget about the Satyam stock much that we feel very bad about Satyam shareholders that is one company. Here you stand the risk of actually losing your faith and trust in the system, which is supposed to be policing the numbers which you have faith and trust in. What happens to the auditors? This is a company which is not a fly by night small company, it is listed on a global exchange, global investor – they are supposed to be following US GAAP norms etc and quarter after quarter they keep blinkering all their investors and none of us find out till the promoter one fine day decides to confess.

Could there be more companies doing these kind of thing? What are the auditors doing? How will we ever know? You and I cannot be looking at going into and checking the bank accounts of Satyam and what they earned in a particular quarter or not. At some level there has to be an implicit code of faith that we believe what is posted on the walls of the exchange but today we cannot. So what are these people doing – these auditors and tax consultants and even rating agencies, how have they conducted themselves over the last two-three quarters. It is absolutely appalling.


-Udayan Mukherjee, Managing Editor,CNBC TV18

08 Jan 2009 14:11

yes , i have gone thru papers, all institutional players exited but for lic which is still holding for the sake of employees...

In reply to:

NIFTY = 4750 & SENSEX = 15000

Posted by : coolboy007

Tara23 ,

It was being shown on CNBC , various institutional investors exited even at 120 levels but poor Aberdeen the biggest holder of Satyam exited fully yesterday at 40.
Regards

08 Jan 2009 14:01

Dear vicky77,

Due to Satyam episode, I dont expect nifty to go beyond 3000 in
the near future. At the same time, if this Satyam virus infects
other index shares like RIL, RCom, DLF, Unitech, etc, there is
every possibility that nifty may fall below 2700 within next 7-10
trading sessions. Keeping this view in mind, try to minimise your
loss on Friday. You may also consider buying Infosys calls on
Friday to recover your loss in nifty. Rgrds....

In reply to:

stbt : nifty fut.

Posted by : vicky77

Hi Kadiyali, I`m new to FnO and lost considerably last year.
Recently, i thought of going on NIFTY only and made decent profits going from 2820 to 3120. Today, i started acuumulating 2 lots of Nifty at 3080 and 3000 and trapped there.

What do you suggest, just to get out of it at the first trade/good price on Friday or hold it for Monday or next week?

08 Jan 2009 14:00

Tara23 ,

It was being shown on CNBC , various institutional investors exited even at 120 levels but poor Aberdeen the biggest holder of Satyam exited fully yesterday at 40.
Regards...

In reply to:

NIFTY = 4750 & SENSEX = 15000

Posted by : tara23

how did u got the news that aberdeen and fidelity sold at 80 and 40...

08 Jan 2009 13:56

Bullet Advisory Indian Stocks-How To Trade Nifty In Future

Everyday we listen about Nifty closing up or down, market bullish or bearish .We wonder how to trade Nifty and earn profit .Nifty is an index and not a stock which can be bought and kept in a demat account then how to trade Nifty where we cannot take the delivery.The answer is to trade Nifty future.We can buy or sell Nifty future.What are the points we have to keep in mind while trading Nifty future, how to calculate the profit and loss.First of all we have to determine the direction of the market whether market will be up or down.We can take the position in Nifty future in the expected direction bullish or bearish.If we are bullish then we can buy Nifty future and if bearish then we can sell Nifty future.What trade we can execute and what would be our position in terms of profit and loss are explained below with examples.If current price of Nifty in January is 2900 and last date of expiry is on nth January then what trades we can do and what will be our profit and loss position is as stated below.

Trade we can do if we are bullish

(1)Buy Nifty Future January @2900 Lot Size 50

We can sell Nifty anytime till last day of expiry i.e., nth January and can book profit or loss.If we do not sell Nifty we have bought till lasts day also then our trade will be automatically squared off at the settlement price of Nifty on last day of expiry decided by the exchange.

Different Possibilities with our Nifty buy position

(1) Nifty price 2950 and sold before expiry then
2950-2900=50*50=2500.00 IRs. Profit
(2)Nifty price 2850 and sold before expiry then
2900-2850=50*50=2500 IRs. Loss
(3)Nifty settlement price 2950 and we have not sold Nifty till expiry then
2950-2900=50*50=2500 IRs. Profit
(4)Nifty settlement price 2850 and we have not sold Nifty till expiry then
2900-2850=50*50=2500 IRs Loss
(5)Nifty settlement price 2900 and we have not sold Nifty till expiry then
2900-2900=0.0 IRs. No Profit no Loss

Trade we can do if we are bearish

(1) Sell Nifty Future January @2900 Lot Size 50.

We can buy Nifty anytime till last day of expiry i.e., nth January and can book profit or loss.If we do not buy Nifty we have sold till lasts day also then our trade will be automatically squared off at the settlement price of Nifty on last day of expiry decided by the exchange.

Different Possibilities with our Nifty sell position

(1)Nifty price 2850 and bought before expiry then
2900-2850=50*50=2500.00 IRs Profit
(2)Nifty price 2950 and bought before expiry then
2950-2900=50*50=2500.00 IRs. Loss
(3) )Nifty settlement price 2850 and we have not bought Nifty till expiry then
2900-2850=50*50=2500.00 IRs. Profit
(4) Nifty settlement price 2950 and we have not bought Nifty till expiry then
2950-2900=50*50=2500.00 IRs. Loss
(5) Nifty settlement price 2900 and we have not bought Nifty till expiry then
2900-2900=0.0 IRs. No Profit No Loss

Before trading in Nifty we should be aware of the margin requirement of the exchange.Over and above margin we will have to settle the profit and loss on daily basis .depending on closing price of Nifty.We can get our margin money + profit or margin money-loss back once we square up our trade.We should also try to know the last day .of expiry which is usually on last Thursday of the month before trading.We also have an option to trade in Mini Nifty having lot size 20 where margin requirement is less compared to Nifty.


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