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06 Oct 2008 18:13

i don`t think 5 years is require to mint money for shopping done today at 3600 levels, one year forward will start minting it. ...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : lovemeall26

Hello ketanpatel01,
That is exactly what I have explained on my homepage that now total erosion of confidence will set in on the world which is the worst type of erosion for world markets. I cant waiting forever for certain levels to make my purchases. I have already picked up substantial stocks at 3650 levels for my Long term portfolio. I dont care if it sinks more from here because this is for five years forward.
thanks
lovemeall26

06 Oct 2008 18:12

So you think stop losses were triggered today...portfolio looks in bad shape rite now..... damn...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Still be careful pkjattking!

As pkk07 mentioned before, nifty along with the whole pack is on the edge of the cliff.

LOW Volume Game at times can become dangerous due to that margin calls getting triggers.

If there is no support, Same BULLs can become BECOME Bears to take Nifty along with other stocks DOWN! :)

YEN DOLLAR ratio has gone down under 104 back!

Techncally, Nifty below 3690 has resulted in BEARish territory!

Those who are prone to heart attack, risk prone should stay away from the game!

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

06 Oct 2008 18:08

Lovemeall,

You must have minted money in this past month?...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : lovemeall26

Hello ketanpatel01,
That is exactly what I have explained on my homepage that now total erosion of confidence will set in on the world which is the worst type of erosion for world markets. I cant waiting forever for certain levels to make my purchases. I have already picked up substantial stocks at 3650 levels for my Long term portfolio. I dont care if it sinks more from here because this is for five years forward.
thanks
lovemeall26

06 Oct 2008 18:03

Oops warren believes

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if things don`t improve, he`ll "have to go back to delivering newspapers.

Unquote

Gosh then what happens to us.. i am not going to be fooled though, i will redeem all my insurance money and invest in stocks. LOL
...

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Warren Baffet Worried!

Posted by : m_i_khilji

Article in VR by Dhirendra Kumar:-

Finally, Warren Buffett is scared. Perhaps you should be too. Fifteen months after start of the global credit crisis (which we innocently used to call the US sub-prime crisis in the olden days), the legendary investor has declared that he has never seen so much economic fear in his life. He has likened the crisis to an economic Pearl Harbour and said that if things don`t improve, he`ll "have to go back to delivering newspapers."

Just last week I`d mentioned how the crisis had left Buffett as a sort of a last man standing on Wall Street and how the crisis had proven the wisdom of what he used to say about financial derivatives and the kind of behaviour they presented. `Financial weapons of mass destruction,` was his description. Interestingly, while Buffett`s words sound more alarming, his actions have indicated hope. He has put down a large amount of cash (about eight billion dollars) to buy major stakes in Goldman Sachs and General Electric.

During this past few weeks, the scale of this crisis has become quite clear. As I`d written two weeks ago, the world has seen easy credit being available for many years, and now the cycle is threatening to reverse itself. Till a few days ago there was a naïve hope that the problem was caused by major global institutions not trusting the quality of assets on each others books. All that was needed was someone like the US government to underwrite the bad assets on these institutions` books and all would be fine.

These simple hopes have now disappeared. It is clear that the great unwinding is upon us. In many ways, what follows will just reset a balance that has been disturbed by the surfeit of money that the world`s economy has seen for about five or six years. The easy and cheap money has been used in all sorts of ways from setting up new factories and infrastructure to buying over-priced stocks and real estate. A cycle of asset price inflation came into being in which the only logic for prices to go up further was that they were going up and there was cheap money available to drive them up. That money is gone now.

What exactly do I mean by `the great unwinding`? Take the example of share prices in India. Almost all the foreign funds that have been driving up the markets are heavily leveraged. Someone has 10 million dollars and they borrow 10 or 20 times on that basis and then bring in the hundred or two hundred million dollars to invest. This could be happening in the hands of the actual fund that invests on Dalal Street or in the hands of that funds` investor but that doesn`t matter now. The 10 or 20 times will now be brought down to a much lower ratio. In a different way, the story of the Indian real estate market is also the same. Unfortunately, the story is also the same on many people`s credit card statements. Debt fuelled a buying binge, and now debt is suddenly a four-letter word.

But that`s the bad news. The good news lies in the actions (not the words) of people like Buffett. The time to buy assets at bargain prices are coming. In the long run, the fortunes will be made not by those who invested in the recent past, but those who will invest in the times to come.

06 Oct 2008 18:02

dude dat fool is ma fukin frend....we do trading togrtha,....we share da profit n losses...i was out f statn fr few days...n isne itne pange lea n becs f him m makin huge loss ! .....kya karoon yaar :|

aj be nahi giraa..tabe at las m nw askin fr ur adiveses ! :(

i feeel like cryin ...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : BullSheetRules

Dear vtycoon,

I just checked some of your msgs...

On sep 28, you suggested everyone to BUY
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buy at cmp (1) 28-Sep-08 16:55 Tracked by (0)
Posted by: vtycoon on ( 28-Sep-08 16:55 )
Price : BSE: Rs 472.10 ( -4.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 472.50 ( -3.87 % )
its a strong buy at cmp fr a very short term target of 505 - 510......

grab itttt ! njoy vtycoon s free calls
---

Aha.. you yourself are now holding SHORT positions!!

Sorry dude, I would not be of much help! :)

Strange are the ways some Boarders Behave!

Gud luk & happy investing! :)

06 Oct 2008 17:58

Article in VR by Dhirendra Kumar:-

Finally, Warren Buffett is scared. Perhaps you should be too. Fifteen months after start of the global credit crisis (which we innocently used to call the US sub-prime crisis in the olden days), the legendary investor has declared that he has never seen so much economic fear in his life. He has likened the crisis to an economic Pearl Harbour and said that if things don`t improve, he`ll "have to go back to delivering newspapers."

Just last week I`d mentioned how the crisis had left Buffett as a sort of a last man standing on Wall Street and how the crisis had proven the wisdom of what he used to say about financial derivatives and the kind of behaviour they presented. `Financial weapons of mass destruction,` was his description. Interestingly, while Buffett`s words sound more alarming, his actions have indicated hope. He has put down a large amount of cash (about eight billion dollars) to buy major stakes in Goldman Sachs and General Electric.

During this past few weeks, the scale of this crisis has become quite clear. As I`d written two weeks ago, the world has seen easy credit being available for many years, and now the cycle is threatening to reverse itself. Till a few days ago there was a naïve hope that the problem was caused by major global institutions not trusting the quality of assets on each others books. All that was needed was someone like the US government to underwrite the bad assets on these institutions` books and all would be fine.

These simple hopes have now disappeared. It is clear that the great unwinding is upon us. In many ways, what follows will just reset a balance that has been disturbed by the surfeit of money that the world`s economy has seen for about five or six years. The easy and cheap money has been used in all sorts of ways from setting up new factories and infrastructure to buying over-priced stocks and real estate. A cycle of asset price inflation came into being in which the only logic for prices to go up further was that they were going up and there was cheap money available to drive them up. That money is gone now.

What exactly do I mean by `the great unwinding`? Take the example of share prices in India. Almost all the foreign funds that have been driving up the markets are heavily leveraged. Someone has 10 million dollars and they borrow 10 or 20 times on that basis and then bring in the hundred or two hundred million dollars to invest. This could be happening in the hands of the actual fund that invests on Dalal Street or in the hands of that funds` investor but that doesn`t matter now. The 10 or 20 times will now be brought down to a much lower ratio. In a different way, the story of the Indian real estate market is also the same. Unfortunately, the story is also the same on many people`s credit card statements. Debt fuelled a buying binge, and now debt is suddenly a four-letter word.

But that`s the bad news. The good news lies in the actions (not the words) of people like Buffett. The time to buy assets at bargain prices are coming. In the long run, the fortunes will be made not by those who invested in the recent past, but those who will invest in the times to come....

06 Oct 2008 17:54

SEBI revised P-Notes norms & removed cap on ODI`s in Derivatives frm pr.40% for Fii & their sub accounts,cap imposed lst oct`2007 last year, P-notes news +ve for mrkt as predicted by us, we may see gap up opening tomm Nifty 100 pts gap up possible if no new bad news comes from US ...

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Sebi revises P-notes norms, scraps ODI restrictions

Posted by : MMB Messenger

CB Bhave, Chairman, Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), said norms on participatory notes have been revised and the limit on overseas-derivative instruments (ODIs) in both cash and derivates will be removed. “The 40% cap on assets under custody in cash market will be removed,” he said.

06 Oct 2008 17:52

Thanks for the come back......

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : Atheist

Sir,
So much for the rosy picture you have painted a week back just because buffet uncle bought some stock...LOL.
Looks like we ll be hitting 3400 on the nifty soon. Dow futures down 2.5 %.
...singh...

06 Oct 2008 17:50

As Manmohan behaving like neero emperorer,investors worrying whether nifty will see 4000 mark again in the year 2008 or not.......

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Will nifty cross 4000 mark in 2008?!!!!

Posted by : marketman

Will nifty see 4000 mark again in 2008??!!

06 Oct 2008 17:48

It was shocking day of trade for the Indian equity markets as the BSE Sensex has lost over 5%. Year to date, it lost over 41%. On January 1, 2008, the Sensex was around the 20300 mark and today it is trading at 11858....

06 Oct 2008 17:45

Hello ketanpatel01,
That is exactly what I have explained on my homepage that now total erosion of confidence will set in on the world which is the worst type of erosion for world markets. I cant waiting forever for certain levels to make my purchases. I have already picked up substantial stocks at 3650 levels for my Long term portfolio. I dont care if it sinks more from here because this is for five years forward.
thanks
lovemeall26...

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : ketanpatel01

It is useless to talk about levels is there anybody who thinks of 700bn$ will solve the problem ?????? I believe that the problem is not of bn$ but it is of confidence. Confidence of common people & confidence of banks for echonomy
1) when I as common man have confidence of my income I will purchase on emi which is the demand of time
2) when I as a banker have confidence in echonomy will lend without fear which is necessary today

LESSON:- from whom ????????
P V NARSIMHARAO thik and never take step when you not understend levels of Sensex/nifty medicine is TIME which will bring confidence to US people & bankers when you see confidence that is the levels to BUY enjoy

06 Oct 2008 17:40

Nifty will Touch 2800 Soon !!!!!!!!!!
...

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At what Nifty level will you invest fresh money?

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger

06 Oct 2008 17:35

Will nifty see 4000 mark again in 2008??!!...

06 Oct 2008 17:35

Is SEBI trying to manipulate the market?...

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Sebi revises P-notes norms, scraps ODI restrictions

Posted by : MMB Messenger

CB Bhave, Chairman, Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), said norms on participatory notes have been revised and the limit on overseas-derivative instruments (ODIs) in both cash and derivates will be removed. “The 40% cap on assets under custody in cash market will be removed,” he said.

06 Oct 2008 17:28

NH@inv
Dear sir
i have 7000 parsvnath share @ Rs.95.00 and it has declare 30% dividend will some body let me know that when this company will send dividend as till date i have not receive anything from this company....

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Experts who saw Black Monday

Posted by : MMB Messenger

The markets may have fallen today but there were many experts who over the past week or so had predicted that the markets would trend lower. Read on, to find which experts go it right?

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