Today`s investing Mantra - 25th Nov 2009 -------------------------------------- DIVERSIFICATION IS KEY Diversification is the key to safeguarding one`s future and building wealth. If you ask someone, have you diversified our investments, mostly the person would say Yes. I have some money in Stocks, some in MF, some in bank savings. In stocks, I am DIVERSIFIED in Tech, FMCG and Real Estate. Well, DIVERSIFICATION does not mean that. It means having a spread of ASSET CLASS - Gold, Insurance, Real Estate, Stocks, FD, etc. This diversification depends on your age, liabilities, responsibilities and risk profile. Usually the younger one is, the heavier the investment in risky asset class such as Equities, MF and as one progresses, the ratio shifts towards DEBT instruments such as PF, FD, Bonds, etc. So DIVERSIFY in ASSET CLASS and not just in STOCKS or MF. Cheers Hansal ...

sd3-So Chennai will have 3G infrastructure to enable 2G users who migrate to a 3G connection to retain the same existing number with no migration charges!!Chennai Telephones plans to give 3G handsets and 3G infrastructure,3G data cards!! ...

3 months ago A news was come that now terrorist may attack on Indian Economy or Share MKT. I want to know that Indian Mkt r regularly increasing without take any right corrections. Can they will see a major fall at upper point? China and India these two countries r those countries which is recover very fast by 2008 to 2009. but china mkt r increasing with conslidation not regularly but with right orrections . On the other hand Indian mkt r increasing continupsll. It also neglecting other economic falls. ...

dear sd3, i dont have much info on this one, moreover, personally i have some reluctance to chemical sector,as as it depends generally to some extent on petroleum prices.. but there are some very good companies with niche/monopoly products. One is Orient chemicals.Its the 2nd largest producer of insoluble suplhur in the world, and right now , demand outstrips supply. Further, it`s a monopoly player in india.Strong earnings & capacity expansion too. The other one i found is IFGL refractories. Another one , with good earnings, and toplines, bottom lines, trading at low valueations is ester industries. But watch out for the level of entry.Its high beta stock. Wish u well for atul. Regards, jashn24 Wish you good luck with atul....

i dont fear criticism. i am losing 4 lacs at the moment. hope to make up by march-will it rise ? ...

Friends I m invested in two companies which have low prices(below 40) but may give higher return in long term at least 1 yr. These companies fundamentally r fair. I want urs suggesstions on this companies , if u have know any particular news or any opinion about this companies. Please share them to me Or anyone want to suggest any low price for purchase or Stop loss. Following r the details. Deccan Gold Reserves - 8.84 Debt - 0 Investments - 9.50 Assete - 0.54 Quarte profit - 0.09 loss JIK Industries Reseves - 8.92 Debt - 3.10 Investment - 19.43 Assets - 10.28 Quarter Profit - 1.35 It is engaged in the business of money changing activity (dealing in foreign currencies/travel cheqs), underwriting, merchant banking, lease operations and share trading etc., The company is a Category I Merchant Banker, full fledged money banker and portfolio managers. ...

Yesterday the Perfect - Analyst was rudra_Sinha. Now today Intrady Closing?. Please give ur views:- 1. Dow Jones 13months week high 2. Nifty Future Discount 2.7 (yestrday) 3.Nifty Future Premium 4 - 5 4.Reliance may lead mkt to downside 5.Expiry r about to Near 6. Profit Booking may be high becuase of expiry 7. Any facts for today that u know My Opinion: - I feel that mkt may take U Turn in to positive trend and European mkts after 1.30pm can also direct the mkt. Thankyou. ...

If I had skill like u I would have topped CAT and gone into IIMA ..


sd3.....

Check Rpower website .
They have one project staring in may june 2010 .

now think

will the EPS not rise ?
what P/E multiple it will trade at with the new EPS ?
Is power sector in India susceptible to recession?

Then make Ur own judgment .

sd3.....

RPower is more than dadri ...

when dardri comes it would be at far higher levels than now .

Check their website for all the projects that are planned .

sd3.....

A news peice on 3G launch at BSNl chennai .
the rates and features should make the game celar for telecom sector from jan onwards .

sd3..
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BSNL Chennai Telephones recorded a first of sorts for South India yesterday with the commercial launch of 3G mobile services. Touted to be the next generation in mobile technology, 3G services will enable you to access Internet on the move with a speed of upto 3.6 Mbps and allow you to do video calling, watch mobile TV and other media rich applications.
In a press conference, Mr A. Subramanian, Chief General Manager, Chennai Telephones told “In about two months, we expect to add another 250 Node B stations to the existing network of about 300 units to provide seamless 3G connectivity across Chennai and adjoining districts”.
Various Demos like Streaming a Youtube without buffering, watching live television on the device effortlessly and a remote video monitoring feature, where video footage from a camera plugged to a broadband facility in South Korea streamed effortlessly on a 3G-supported mobile handset, were done at the event which showcased the true potential of 3G technology.
In this scheme, all the local voice calls and video calls are going to cost 30 paise/min and all the STD video calls will be 50 paise/min. Data usage charges are currently planned at 1 ps/10 kb but there is a possibility that the rates may decrease in due time. With its first year introductory offer of tariffs comparatively much lower than 2G call charges, Chennai Telephones hopes to gain 1.5 lakh users over the next couple of months.
BSNL officials added that the mobile TV application offered under a tie-up with a content provider currently showcases 24 channels and would be increased with user demand. Chennai Telephones have also tweaked its 3G infrastructure to enable 2G users who migrate to a 3G connection to retain the same existing number with no migration charges. But, there are no plans to bundle 3G handsets in the introductory offer. The 3G data cards which offer high speed Mobile Internet access for computer users on the move were also launched in this event.
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Can You pls check Atul Ind .

I made my token buy in it last month .

ps :
poorfellow has given a summary in a reply to me .

sd3.....

Here is a joke sir ,

I downloaded this rep yester night for a detailed reading to be done this week..

and today my boss called me for a sales call overseas and i wud be dead busy with preparation and tour for next 2 months ..
with no time to read scogen report ..

glad u r reading it :) .

sd3.....

Sir ,

Geo is strategic buy for any LT investor .
Am waiting for sub 80 level to make my buy .

next ,

Whats the new with Atul , I had made my token buy after our last discussion .
But couldnot fine ne news on that board .

sd3.....

If you cant book the losses then don`t play in stock markets .
If you cant handle criticism don`t express your views .
If you cant handle abuse don`t get into public forum .

It doesn`t matter how good or bad one is .
But being able to adjust to variety of people is essence of social living .

Quit if u wish to but let it be clear that there is no dignity in it !

Best of luck to all sincere souls .

sd3.....

Its not over S22g . Its going to haunt us .
Did AIG roll back its insurance on morg. defaults ?
Is GS less leveraged on interest rates swap than ever ?
Is US started to become Productions country ?
Has RBI got over its guilt of promoting Housing mania in India ? ... goes on ..

Assume for a second .. that EU is India and all its member are states .. and we see the hidden strength they have . May be they have to realize that they are capable of self sustained production and consumption .

The cumulative numbers on money printed are getting ugly day by day . Its going to hurt now on . I don`t see the some day will be so far ... in next decade .. i don`t .

Unless there is near WAR ... USD has to pay the price . A scenario where Oil , Gold , interest rates could surge in a day ... oh i remembered LIBOR in Oct2008 .
And markets would fall .... unless they convince us that 10 Rupee is new Paisa and milk is 100 Rs a liter ! .

This time the fight is with mathematics . The numbers are overwhelmingly lined up against treasury being auctioned . I wouldn`t be surprised to see some news from RBI on interest rates .

Look at gold its going to 1200 . Finding its new home between 1000-1200 :) .
Look at Drunken Dow ... what is it up for ?

leverage squeeze .. shall i coin a term ..
sd3.....

Sector : Auto makers .
Prices : High to life high
Earnings : Rising but over rated for short term

Name Market Cap P/E


Eicher Motors Ltd. 1,550.53 39.76
Ashok Leyland Ltd. 6,997.58 36.83
Tata Motors Ltd. 31,821.26 31.78
Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. 28,897.04 34.53
Maruti Suzuki India Ltd. 41,149.46 33.77
TVS Motor Company Ltd. 1,402.69 45.13
Bajaj Auto Ltd. 21,080.39 32.11
Hero Honda Motors Ltd. 30,325.54 23.66

Notes : Few truck companies excluded . Stock at record highs as well as rising to record sells . 4 wheeler is the new bike !
Tie ups done by many players so unlocking possible . Still a rate sensitive sector .
Many foreign player dominating auto scene and they are not listed on NSE lol

sd3..

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I agree sir ,

Value stocks dint rise much recently .

If sm1 really has free shares like you he can wither any fall.
also , whats the point in investing if one has to really bother about market fluctuations ! .

I was talking of economics cycles . Somehow I am not convinced of the financial mess being solved .

Sir , If RBI tightens loans by 1-2 percent or say the FDI flow stock growing our GDP falls back to 3-4 percent . That`s the reality we have . How much do i then bet on my LT logic .
You know sir LT logic needs some sanity in the overall scenario . Else it robs us of any faith in system :( . This doesn`t look like the period of moderate innocence .
Thats why i opened the discussion with you.
For market fluctuation i revere stability of your mind .

sd3..
ps : Had bought the tokens in augest . Sujana at 55 and dena at 40 something . Its the RComs and Bharti that drag my % down .. lol . But my position sizing logic tells me to average it only after 40 % fall or rise , hence holding the cash .

ps2 : had bought suj after out chat . Wanted to put some money in it so that i track it in real time before making a big buy . Luck has it it doubled so fast :D...

Sir i bought 5k of PSL at 100+ and then again now at 140 . That time i was expecting markets to play around a little but it seems to be in hurry . hence the strategy changed. Even otherwise piping is situational sector sir , bullish on LT but prone to economics shocks.


Sir telecom i feel is entering into defensive stocks list soon for most of the players . The sector is like that sir .

People wont stop taking or surfing net unless we get the great depression of sorts .
People have started romancing the mobility just now . Now we have to see the day when evey teen will have his own cell for orkutiing . Slowing down here and there cells phone are going to be like jokey ( the brand ) .everyone who counts gotta have at least one.dual sim is the best example of the trend . Now add to it the new enterents in telecom and you see that oldies like Airtel, Rcom become stable stocks.
Its the sector with most revenue visibility like say ITC . When the fall starts these existing stock will continue posting similar level of earning quarter after quarter (new consumers will be act as buffer to the increasing competition ).

I am trying to figure out at what PE levels the sector will be publicized as sure shot defensive .

ps :
I would be eyeing RNRL and RPOWER if some fall really happens .

sd3.....