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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
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suresh_esgTracked by: 0 Boarder
It is same for most investors!.. My portfolio is now 65% of what it used to be. I am not worried. You know why?.. I always expect the unexpected. That is to assume in advance that the shares I buy will come down.
At these times, the only thing I do is to buy selective stocks. Some of these include the ones in my folio and some are new. This will pay off in the long run.
I have recently got into Omaxe(120),Parsvanath(107),HDIL(175) and JP Associates(113). At the time of purchase I did anticipate that the prices of these stocks may come down though the fall has come a little earlier and a little more than what I expected it to be. But never mind, I would only use this opportunity to add some more of these stocks to my folio as I believe this sector will have a future in the long run.
I am writing this because most of the time investors sell off in panic at a huge price difference. Selling out of panic is not a good thing. If we believe in the stock, we should hold it and average it if necessary.
Hope there will be atleast some one getting benefit out of this.....
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
vam_aru
Dear Suyogparakh,
We should never rely on this broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst, because all are having some interest about what they recommend, so the decisions has to be taken with the organized way and making sure that the investment fall in line with your risk capacity.
My portfolio is now become 60 % less, most of the investors portfolio sinks to 50 % to 80 % now ( whoever started last year from SEP 2007 ), so it would be very wise to take your own decisions and device some strategies to come out with out loss or win the markets.
Good luck..
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
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vam_aruTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear Suyogparakh,
We should never rely on this broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst, because all are having some interest about what they recommend, so the decisions has to be taken with the organized way and making sure that the investment fall in line with your risk capacity.
My portfolio is now become 60 % less, most of the investors portfolio sinks to 50 % to 80 % now ( whoever started last year from SEP 2007 ), so it would be very wise to take your own decisions and device some strategies to come out with out loss or win the markets.
Good luck.. ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
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vam_aruTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear Suyogparakh,
It`s really bad that your investment drops around 87%, Most of the investors got hammered by the excessive valuations set by our markets during SEP 2007 to DEC 2007, This HDIL stock would gained 90 rs and 140 rs in a single day to create that "MAYA`, so when it started to fall most of the retailers got in to the stock thinking that this is the bottom, But it now hovers around 90 rs.
The only way to get out of this stock in one or two years is to buy around 9 times of your initial quantity around 75 rs to 90 levels, and keep on playing COVERED CAll writing method to reduce your average every month ( the covered call writing should be above your average price of your entire HDIL holdings, That way even if HDIL start to gain you will get your entire investment back ), this way you can come out with out much loss, But you need to have lot of courage, Money and patience to do that, otherwise it`s wise to just to average once at this rate, and wait for miracles to happen... ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
googolTracked by: 0 Boarder
1105
Friend,
First and foremost:Do not lose heart.All of us are in the same boat
Secondly,you are somewhat lucky.Got struck with a good stock.
Thirdly,forget that number 728,for some years
Fourthly, start buying in small lots now keeping the investment amount constant and invest same amount for every Rs10 fall.(I can`t say how much w/o knowing your financial status.But let it be matchable to your initial purchase)
Fifthly,the above lots have to be considered as separate entities and should NEVER be averaged.If you are buying four lots,sell the first lot (qty) when the price goes above the third lot price.
Sixthly and foremost stop listening to the analysts,experts et al.
They do not know anything.There are a few boarders here who can guide you far better.
Good Luck!...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
sangraniTracked by: 0 Boarder
I am a trader and investor with 15 yrs in market and also trade in major markets.. these analsysts and indian brokerages on channels only fool inbestors and fool themseleves. may be they are offloading at those levels. A small exapmle Taylor Wipmy is the biggest developer for homes in U.K and is FTSE traded. the share price crashed from £3.50 to 22 pence in a span of 6 months. barrat developents another big group in U.K came crashing from £9 to 40 pence low. I was shocked read and see that when gloabl real estate names were crashing, Indian anaylysts have been recomending HDIL, DLF and others to guy at 600 rs levels when at exact times taylor wimmpey and barrats were at 25 pence and 48 pence. I real pity these analysts and some big names in india who have published buy reports on HDIL and DLF. these guys should be punished and I sympathise with you for the loss. I advise you to buy hdil at these levels and when it gets to 250 -300 exit please. it may take time to get to 700-800 unless you are prepared to hold for 3 years. it is beyond belief that these domestic big Indian names did not see the impact what US and UK can create on India and ther emerging economies. markets will bounce anytime and you will miss the opporunity at these levels. I am now advising to buy sensex stocks for a strong returns and the period would be 6 months to 12 months...please use stop loss which comes with a lot of experience and do not blame you. I am buying icicibank, tatapower, suzlon, punj, tcs, infosys,mind tree, mtnl , rcom etc at these levels. this is an opporunity and smart people and big names are buying ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
miltonTracked by: 0 Boarder
It pains when you loose ur hard earn money and I understand ur state of mind you might be running thru.. You must have lost nearly 7 lakhs in this transaction but u must have gained more than 7 lakhs in your stock market knowledge. Its good that you have burnt ur fingers and you understand how it feels, so next time u will be more cautiously and wise in your dealings.
Dont believe in this TA, Fundamental analysis they are all MENTALS/LUNATICS/PIMPS in this stock market. If there prediction was so accurate and correct, they could be billionaries in the stock market and wont be having time to give recommendition to us. They are worse than the Chameleons who changes their colors according to the environment. Averaging ur share is not a solution. Wait for a while till the dust settles down and then enter. It will be foolish again on your part if you plunge urself in greed of regaining ur lost money. Market is in bearish mode, it will take certainly long time to come in the bullish stage. If you have surplus money than buy dividend yield stock or Blue chip stock, because it will be the first to rise.
Believe in almighty and Believe in yourself. See what you had return
back to society when u had earned money. I am sure when you follow this principle, you will be a successful investor in your life.
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
LUVGUPTATracked by: 0 Boarder
HELOOOO
THERE IS NO NEED TO WORRY. THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THIS STOCK ARE VERY GOOD. BUT AS ALWAYS DURING PANIC SELLING, EVERY STOCK IS PUNISHED WHATEVER ARE THER FUNDAMENTALS. THE LEVELS OF 2000+ WILL BE ACHIEVABLE WITHIN 3-YEARS. IF U HAVE SOME MONEY PUT IT IN HDIL. I AM HOLDING A FUTURE OF IT AROUND 350. I AM STILL HOLDING IT.
U WILL NOT GET ONLY UR INVESTMENT BACK BUT VERY GOOD RETURNS ALSO. ...
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realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
Posted by :
suyogparakh
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy about reality
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suyogparakhTracked by: 0 Boarder
hey guys!
i am not able to understand that 6-9 months back each broking house, each analyst recommending buy on HDIL with targets of 2500-3200 bucks but today they recommending selling the stock by saying that the stock is overvalued.
they are making fool out of us.
i have 1200 shares on the average price of 728/-.
my broker, friends, technical analyst, fundamental analyst all bastards recommending it & saying that u have buy next to gold, dont worry...
so plz help me that i am loosing quite a good amt.
...
HDIL touches a 52-week low
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haresh_karwaniTracked by: 0 Boarder
hdil will not see 100 or bottom again..it will definitely boom from monday......
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HDIL touches a 52-week low
Posted by :
Hormaz
The worse is over for this stock. book value is 135 Rs. and I think it will come to it within this month end. dont worry....dont try to create panic. open interest has also increase,
hell ya hdil
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suresh_esgTracked by: 0 Boarder
It is hardly anybody`s guess. Those with good apetite can start buying in slowly. I feel this sector will see some more downslide. We may HDIL settling at around 50-60 levels which will be a golden opportunity to buy. I was very active buying this at 175. No regrets....
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hell ya hdil
Posted by :
pagal hui mai
koi muje btaega ye sala kab tak girta rhega.i have 600 shares @600.
hell ya hdil
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pagal hui maiTracked by: 0 Boarder
koi muje btaega ye sala kab tak girta rhega.i have 600 shares @600....
HDIL touches a 52-week low
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HormazTracked by: 0 Boarder
The worse is over for this stock. book value is 135 Rs. and I think it will come to it within this month end. dont worry....dont try to create panic. open interest has also increase,...
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HDIL touches a 52-week low
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B2M
it`s gotta be 40 soon babyyy.
watch the comin months n u vil get dat 4 half of 2day.
things gotta be real bad 4 reality as some of the project in lower end suburbs are unsold and EPS will show the dramaticle changes and u will know the hollow of reality.
its hard to belive more sell of in this
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GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear kakrecha1,
YOur analyses are not correct. I agree with you that real estate price has not fallen by 90%, but that is not the end of the story.
HDIL has taken huge loans from the market at high interest rates. Now all there projects have gone for a toss as there are no investors in the market. The same is the story with Omaxe, Parsavnath, DLF, unitech, etc.
These companies were also working on new projects where they had invested there profit of last few years & applied to various banks for further loans.
Now with US sub-prime issues & India Real estate crash, these bank have withdrawn there loan approvals. This will result in project getting into halt due to unavailablity of funds & HDIL, and company paying interest on the money they invested in the half constructed project.
The most recent update of yesterday: Standard charted Bank was about to give approx 5,000 crore loan to DLF & Unitech. Standard charted had approved this loan 4 months back but the disbursements was to be made from November month onwards. Now, the recent news is that standard charted bank has refused for the loan. It may create havoc for Unitech & DLF both.
Believe me, some companies will go bankrupt. They may lose 98% to 99% of their value from the peak.
Imagine this situtation: A person has lost his job & there are no chances for him to get a new job for next 5-7 years. In addition that person has to pay huge interest for next 5-7 years till the time he finds a new job. The havoc will be two-fold: No earning for next 5-7 years & paying interest from pocket for 5-7 years. The same is the case with real estate companies.
The companies who can afford to get money from alternate sources can only survive, others will vanish!!!!!...
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its hard to belive more sell of in this
Posted by :
kakrecha1
having only pe of 2 and still going down its only penic if u hald for long time then this will reward u lot and stock has fallen 90 % and land price has not gone this much down so no need to penic and stay invested with company then will give u a handsome profit
HDIL touches a 52-week low
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B2MTracked by: 0 Boarder
it`s gotta be 40 soon babyyy.
watch the comin months n u vil get dat 4 half of 2day.
things gotta be real bad 4 reality as some of the project in lower end suburbs are unsold and EPS will show the dramaticle changes and u will know the hollow of reality....
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HDIL touches a 52-week low
Posted by :
nishu84
Will HDIL touch Rs.60 Is there any chance that this strong share will revive in coming months.
HDIL touches a 52-week low
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nishu84Tracked by: 0 Boarder
Will HDIL touch Rs.60 Is there any chance that this strong share will revive in coming months. ...
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HDIL touches a 52-week low
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MMB Messenger
HDIL has touched a 52-week low of Rs 108.10. At 11:04 am, the share was quoting at Rs 108.50, down Rs 18.55, or 14.6%. It was trading with volumes of 653,870 shares. Yesterday the share closed down 8.43% or Rs 11.70 at Rs 127.05.
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