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Himachal Futuristic Communication

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06 Aug 2008 20:00

Where have the bulls disappeared

Posted by : panni
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.55 ( -3.04 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.60 ( -2.76 % )
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if this stock can surpass 24 in near future ?
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Where have the bulls disappeared

Posted by : Sattyavem_jayte

First priniciple, never beleive in stories.
On charts it looks bad, 30,50, 150, 200 avg are in ascending order. From technical point of view, its surely not the time to buy.
one should start monitoring this stock only after it crosses 24 and manages to stay above for 3 weeks.

06 Aug 2008 14:57

Where have the bulls disappeared

Posted by : Sattyavem_jayte
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.90 ( -1.10 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.90 ( -1.10 % )
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First priniciple, never beleive in stories.
On charts it looks bad, 30,50, 150, 200 avg are in ascending order. From technical point of view, its surely not the time to buy.
one should start monitoring this stock only after it crosses 24 and manages to stay above for 3 weeks....

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Where have the bulls disappeared

Posted by : profit_taran

hi

this is my first message here.
i think u have tracked this counter closely.
my sources are recommending me to buy this counter as there is some strong takeover story developing.

i m confused wheather to buy or not.

can u plz help me wheather the story is true or not.

thanks

taran

06 Aug 2008 13:33

HIREN NAIK

Posted by : Uday Raj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.95 ( -0.83 % ), NSE: Rs. 18.00 ( -0.55 % )
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Hi Hiren and wagabond,

I agree. This is the last chance Nahata has to pull it off in 3G auction and make it big for HFCL...Also he has connections in place now...I think the purpose behind Datacom being given GSM spectrum was that no ne cud do hostile takeover for the 2G spectrum...but in 3G the previous drama shud not repeat bc if dhoot puts in 5000 cr for datacom for 3G, Nahata continues to become richer by the spectrum allotment by the virtue of being 36% shareholder...

So in my opinion a merger between the two ( datacom and infotel) is a must...and then takeover by the biggy who manipulated Datacom to be the first in que for 2G spectrum....

Also end of dispute between the big brothers will affect the timing of takeover, in case there is to be one.

Rgds...

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HIREN NAIK

Posted by : wagabond

i also have 9k shares ( bought at high prices ).As we already have stock we should hold as company may be takenover and management may change. This change will be fundamental in nature & change fortunes of this company. i firmly beleive that hfcl is a case of bad management in a good buisiness if management does not change than rally will only be for technical / speculative reasons & better to exit as such a rally not supported by fundamentals will not last.

Current hfcl management is well connected & may be favoured in 3g auctions. They also hold immovable properties & investments in companies like ABCL which can be monetised.

i invite views on above

06 Aug 2008 12:35

HIREN NAIK

Posted by : wagabond
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 18.05 ( -0.28 % ), NSE: Rs. 18.15 ( 0.28 % )
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i also have 9k shares ( bought at high prices ).As we already have stock we should hold as company may be takenover and management may change. This change will be fundamental in nature & change fortunes of this company. i firmly beleive that hfcl is a case of bad management in a good buisiness if management does not change than rally will only be for technical / speculative reasons & better to exit as such a rally not supported by fundamentals will not last.

Current hfcl management is well connected & may be favoured in 3g auctions. They also hold immovable properties & investments in companies like ABCL which can be monetised.

i invite views on above...

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HIREN NAIK

Posted by : Guest

Hey; Udayral, where are you? I NEED YOUR VIEWS on this stock.I have 19k shares of HFCL.How can I CONTACT YOU? Please share your views on this board.This message board realy loocks lonely without your message.HIREN NAIK.

06 Aug 2008 08:34

HIREN NAIK

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 18.10 ( 0.00 % ), NSE: Rs. 18.10 ( 0.28 % )
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Hey; Udayral, where are you? I NEED YOUR VIEWS on this stock.I have 19k shares of HFCL.How can I CONTACT YOU? Please share your views on this board.This message board realy loocks lonely without your message.HIREN NAIK....

05 Aug 2008 16:13

preference in 3G

Posted by : crds123
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 18.10 ( 0.00 % ), NSE: Rs. 18.25 ( 1.11 % )
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The price can only increase if this script goes to F & O otherwise it will be the same old story. it will increase some what and then it will get delisted at certain level same like Vikas WSP.

RGDS/CRDS.

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preference in 3G

Posted by : bdj

This management team has never been fair with Investors..The trend contin ues till date. Only changes I am looking for change in entire management..
Naidu

04 Aug 2008 11:16

preference in 3G

Posted by : bdj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 18.10 ( 3.72 % ), NSE: Rs. 18.10 ( 3.72 % )
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This management team has never been fair with Investors..The trend contin ues till date. Only changes I am looking for change in entire management..
Naidu ...

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preference in 3G

Posted by : Guest

HFCL is a reputed and good company but controlled by a group of persons whose eternity is doutful. 2G was missed knowingly now see what they do with 3G.
This group should diclose their agenda for next 5 years so we investor can take decision to stay invested or not.

03 Aug 2008 19:55

preference in 3G

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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HFCL is a reputed and good company but controlled by a group of persons whose eternity is doutful. 2G was missed knowingly now see what they do with 3G.
This group should diclose their agenda for next 5 years so we investor can take decision to stay invested or not....

03 Aug 2008 14:37

Himachal Futuris

Posted by : rocky_421001
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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Exit hfcl on ever rally, theres not going to be any merger nor it is going to get qualified for any spectrum allotment. Apart from if looking for investment in telecom sector enter tata tele at curent levels, coz company will report its profit from this year. moreover company is also looking for agreessive product launch to compete Rcom.

Regards,
R.C...

02 Aug 2008 17:23

NOW JACKPOT FOR HFCL SHAREHO;DERS

Posted by : bdj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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Nahata has won a jackpot few years back from packers od australia. Recently won another jackpot via jumbo at the cost of HFCL. Now datacom needs 3G. It may be expensive for datacom to bid via auction. Dhoots may be wiser to buy Nahata stake and takeover HFCL to corner HFCLINFOTEL which may get at cheaper cost. Dhoots are discussing the issues with Nahata..Cheers.....

02 Aug 2008 14:31

ANYBODY CAN TAKE OVER .HFCL TO GAIN

Posted by : bdj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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It is possible to take over HFCL for peanuts and gain from enarmous potential it has for growth in Telecom Sector especially after favourable 3G policy announcement. The existing players need to contribute 2000+ crores for 3G. but the new player for double than that amount. I think AJ of Jai corporation can bet on this company in tune with his already declared ambitions on telecom sector. HFCL has a great value now if an able management takes over minus NAHATA who has let down/mismanaged the company and its shareholder. HFCL has no major shareholder except the public.

Naidu...

02 Aug 2008 00:43

DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : Guest
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DEAR,Udayraj,Nahta has dispute with Venugopal Dhoot lead him to takeback his stake from DATACOM,because nahta wants his self decisive and tottaly under control company.So that is HFCL.Nahta this time surely try his lastlong efforts to get 3G Spectrum for HFCL and surely get it,because he has good political connection and he has Mastermind to use it.THEN ALL TAKE OVER and MERGING story will come out. HIREN NAIK. \\\\...

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DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : Uday Raj

Dear wagabond,

Anything is possible with mysterious Nahata and he is capable of doing anything...

What u say cannot be ruled out only if he is sincerely interested in getting 3G...either thru HFCL (having hi net worth thru HTL and HFCL Infotel) or, thru HFCL Infotel after merging it with datacom to raise the net worth (an issue on which it lost 2G last time) or by selling his stake in datacom and using the proceds to fund 3G.

If there is a will there is a way...But going by Nahata\\`s reputation of cheating the shareholders no one has confidence in him this time around for 3G...I am not ruling out the possibility of it bagging 3G, but no one knows for sure.

Rgds

01 Aug 2008 18:49

DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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Dear Udayraj,Nahta has disput with Venugopal Dhoot will lead him to take back his stake from datacom because he wants self decisive and complet undercontrol company.For that he will try his lastlong efforts for 3G spectrum.And HFCL is there for all his fufillment.I think HFCL surey will get 3G SPECTRUM.Then the all story of TAKE OVER or MERGING will come out. HIREN NAIK. \\\\...

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DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : Uday Raj

Dear wagabond,

Anything is possible with mysterious Nahata and he is capable of doing anything...

What u say cannot be ruled out only if he is sincerely interested in getting 3G...either thru HFCL (having hi net worth thru HTL and HFCL Infotel) or, thru HFCL Infotel after merging it with datacom to raise the net worth (an issue on which it lost 2G last time) or by selling his stake in datacom and using the proceds to fund 3G.

If there is a will there is a way...But going by Nahata\\`s reputation of cheating the shareholders no one has confidence in him this time around for 3G...I am not ruling out the possibility of it bagging 3G, but no one knows for sure.

Rgds

01 Aug 2008 17:52

DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : Uday Raj
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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Dear wagabond,

Anything is possible with mysterious Nahata and he is capable of doing anything...

What u say cannot be ruled out only if he is sincerely interested in getting 3G...either thru HFCL (having hi net worth thru HTL and HFCL Infotel) or, thru HFCL Infotel after merging it with datacom to raise the net worth (an issue on which it lost 2G last time) or by selling his stake in datacom and using the proceds to fund 3G.

If there is a will there is a way...But going by Nahata\\`s reputation of cheating the shareholders no one has confidence in him this time around for 3G...I am not ruling out the possibility of it bagging 3G, but no one knows for sure.

Rgds...

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DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : wagabond

Nahata holds a 36% stake in datacom which has pan india lisence thru jumbo techno services (share holding pattern unknown) Mr Doot of Videocon is buying out this stake at around 1 billion usd this money can be used to pay 3g lisence fees & roll out services thru HFCL infotel who may get prefrence as they are CDMA operator I think HFCL is a strong buy with 1 year horizon but risk remains high I invite comments on the above

01 Aug 2008 16:05

DATACOM STAKE

Posted by : wagabond
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 17.45 ( 0.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 17.45 ( 0.29 % )
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Nahata holds a 36% stake in datacom which has pan india lisence thru jumbo techno services (share holding pattern unknown) Mr Doot of Videocon is buying out this stake at around 1 billion usd this money can be used to pay 3g lisence fees & roll out services thru HFCL infotel who may get prefrence as they are CDMA operator I think HFCL is a strong buy with 1 year horizon but risk remains high I invite comments on the above...

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