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29 Aug 2008 01:54

Dear All,

Every one Trades and not all wins , Traders Lose some days and win some days, What makes the perfect tarder ? and How to avoid the trading Mistakes ? here are Few thoughts ( Note: The Thoughts may be taken from some books or from some other trader and some may from own experience ) , experience Traders can share their Views and add some more points.

1) Take Responsiblitity of your trades
2) Never Trade so much
3) If you trade NIFTY you should not be putting More than 25 to 30 Trades in a Year.
4) Never Take a Position in the First 30 Minutes or Last 30 Minutes.
5) Always Plan a trade before you execute
6) When you are in slightest doubt or ask the other person on what to do on the executed trade Immediately come out.
7) Don't see the Prices continuously once your trade fills in.
8) have a Strict Stop Loss ( General Rule is 2% on your Account Money )
9) Never Average your losing position
10) Never Take small profits if there is a More room upside.
11) Never place a Market order.
12) Don't Trade with emotional feelings
13) You must agree you can never beat the market.
14) Develope a strong Psychology
15) Never act on a Freely available information , By the time it reached you the trade would have set in.
16) when you see a SELL from brokerage house on a TV That stock might be falling by about 8 or 10 % only, but the strong upmove may be expected, don't be in short position for long.
17) when you see a BUY Calls Tarde with caution.

Happy Trading.

Boarders are happy to add their views.
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28 Aug 2008 23:11

Hi,
Pl read this,we have big opportunity in India
"I believe the next decade will give us fantastic investment opportunities in fixing the world's creaky infrastructure. From roads and bridges to water and power supply... there's trillions of dollars that are going to be spent. Matt Simmons, the oft-quoted energy analyst, likes to say, "Rust never sleeps."

The whole oil and gas infrastructure is a "vast spider web of steel." There are over 335,000 miles of pipelines in the U.S. alone. There are hundreds of refineries in the world, as well as thousands of tank farms, gas stations, and oil and gas wells.

Such infrastructure requires a lot of maintenance, which is not cheap. On the heels of two decades of low oil prices, much of the industry deferred a lot of maintenance. As Simmons says: "The entire value chain is built of steel. Steel begins to corrode the day it is cast."

The risk of failure – of leaks or breakages – is high. "If the world wants to continue using energy, its assets need to be rebuilt. Simple law of nature," Simmons says. "The construction job will rival the combination of building the World War II war machine, the Marshall Plan rebuilding of Europe, and the post-World War II Interstate Highway System."

Here's one example, just a snippet of the infrastructure the industry is building: Shell is putting together a $1.5 trillion energy project in the Middle East – a massive gas-to-liquids plant in Qatar. It is as large as 450 football fields. It will require 300,000 tons of steel and employ 35,000 workers.

All the while, the prices of steel, cement, copper, etc., continue to rise. People, too, are hard to find, like parking spaces in Manhattan. It's a massive opportunity. The offshore boom only adds to the urgency of it all.


The Most Important Infrastructure Trend in the World Today
An Extraordinary Income Opportunity in the Energy Market

Developing economies like India, Russia, and China are using up lots of steel pipe, cement, and energy. Pipeline investments are just one of the exciting angles here. My readers have more than doubled their money on Northwest Pipe, one of the leading pipe makers in America. The companies that build offshore energy infrastructure also look cheap right now.

My message to all investors is: Make sure to own some investments on this theme. The demand here is enormous. The returns should be as well.

Good investing,

Chris Mayer...

28 Aug 2008 18:02

One lakh is enough just for 3 to 4 months expenses if you wish to live decently. Where i can go for the rest. I bought a house in Mumbai when i was working early days for 30000 (one room flat in Sion) Today the open car park is sold for 3 lakhs (then comes the cost of the house starting from as low as 60 lakhs) What to do with one lakh. Please take the message in lighter side- i am just writing that today there is no value for one lakh rupees. Cheers Latikav...

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Five ways to invest Rs1 lakh :)

Posted by : latikav

Last year, if you had Rs1 lakh that you could invest as you pleased, you would probably have gone straight to the stock market. In difficult times, however, you need to evaluate your investment decisions a little better. If you have Rs1 lakh to invest today, this is how you should look at it.
Keep some cash
First of all, make sure you have 3-6 months of living expenses saved up. With inflation at almost 12%, and looking to stay high, you will have higher outflows in the monthly budget for your home. You have two options. One is to keep this contingency money in a savings account that is linked to a fixed deposit. This way, you will earn a slightly higher rate of interest as well as have penalty-free easy access to your funds should you need them.
The other option is to invest this money in fixed maturity plans (FMP) of short durations. FMPs are closed-end, debt-based funds with fixed dates of maturity. They aim to generate returns that are indicated at the time of the launch of the scheme. Their tenure ranges from one month to five years. These will give you a higher return than the savings bank account, and usually offer much more attractive returns after adjusting for tax when compared with fixed deposits.
Buy medical insurance
Economic slowdown is likely to affect employment. Companies will seek to cut the flab and though new jobs will be generated, you would not be as spoilt for choice as you have been in the last few years. If you only have a health insurance plan from your employer, it would be worthwhile to buy yourself a policy now. If the worst happens and you are laid off for a period of time, you do not want to risk falling ill and having to pay your medical bills as well.
Pay off your loan
This is the simplest answer. Interest rates are going up. Your EMI and your tenure may have been increased several times in the last few years. If you have some money to spare, try and pay off as much of your loan as possible. First, pay off credit card debts and personal loans, then look at home loans. For example, if you have a home loan of Rs20 lakh today, and you prepay Rs1 lakh, you will be saving Rs1,64,260 on interest costs alone.
Buy blue-chip stocks
If you do not have a loan to pay off or would rather invest that money, the stock market can be a worthy destination. In the close to 40% loss witnessed by the markets in the last six months, several stocks that were astronomically priced have come into fair valuation zones. If you do not have any immediate use for your Rs1 lakh, you can invest this in some good blue-chip stocks. Stay clear of interest-rate-sensitive sectors, look at pharmaceutical and FMCG companies (which are better options in these times).
However, if you do not want to take the risk of picking the wrong stocks, you could invest this money in an exchange-traded fund (ETF). An ETF invests in stocks in the exact proportion as the index it mirrors. If the Nifty grows 15% annually in the next five years, so will your money.
Invest in an MF
If you are not sure at all about investing all your money in a stock market that seems to be gaining and losing 1,000 points every other day, you could look at a systematic transfer plan (STP) in a mutual fund. Under this, you invest your lump sum of Rs1 lakh in a debt fund. So you get a consistent, but low return. Then you mandate the fund house to transfer a portion of this money every month to a designated equity fund. This way, if the market slips down significantly, you can take comfort in the fact that only a portion of your money is invested and if the market rises, your increased exposures will add to your wealth.
THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH Rs1 LAKH
• Keep 3-6 months’ expenses as contingency cash
• Buy medical insurance
• Pay off loan
• Invest in an ETF
• Invest through STP in a mutual fund
The views expressed on this page are not the newspaper’s opinion and are provided for information purposes only by Outlook Money. Readers are requested to do their own research. Neither Mint nor Outlook Money will be responsible for any actions and outcomes based on information provided here
(Veena Venugopal-Livemint)

28 Aug 2008 17:13

Aditya Birla Nuvo, a part of Aditya Birla group, today said it would acquire 56 per cent stake in Chennai-based stock broking firm Apollo Sindhoori Capital for Rs 198.81 crore.

The board of directors of Aditya Birla Nuvo at its meeting today, have approved the acquisition of over 3.10 crore equity shares representing 56 per cent of the equity share capital of Apollo Sindhoori for Rs 198.81 crore, Aditya Birla Nuvo said in a filing to the Bombay Stock Exchange.
-et
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28 Aug 2008 16:39

For those expecting the Sensex to touch 16,000 in the near term, last week\'s market trend came as a jolt. With inflation continuing its upward trend, there wasn\'t much good news and as a result, on Thursday, the Sensex lost over 400 points. It has once again brought back the fears of corrections at regular intervals and consensus is growing in favour of a weak market in the near term.

While the earlier sore points of high inflation and resulting higher interest rate regime continue to exist, the bad news during the week came in the form of higher crude oil prices. The mild surge in oil prices has strengthened the case for bears who are once again back in action. With traders too taking comfort in going short, one cannot expect a huge recovery in the stock prices in the coming days. Much of the uptrend would be triggered by short covering than value buying.

But the good news for long-term investors is that the market has begun to show resilience and the current weakness has factored in most of the bad news. The intermittent selling pressures , largely driven by foreign financial institutions, needs to lose momentum for the local investors to commit larger cash. The local institutional investors like insurance companies and mutual funds, have been sitting on a larger components of cash and have preferred to play the wait and watch game.

The strategy can\'t be completely different for retail investors. While those who are playing a long game can still have a go at equity, it would be advisable to opt for a staggered approach. In fact, many analysts recommend a much lower allocation for equity during the current year if the time horizon is less than two years. For such investors, the systematic approach would be a better option. In the case of direct stocks, buying at regular intervals would be the right strategy. The immediate question is how one chooses the buying opportunity .

A weakness in the market could be of two types. As has been the trend over the last couple of quarters, the markets slip into selling pressure on regular intervals where the indices end up losing over 300-400 points in a single session. On such trading days, there is a significant downtrend in most stocks and you can use the day to pick up stocks in large and fundamentally-strong mid-caps .

Buying in such a market trend is probably easier though one would be tempted to wait for the bottom . The easier option in such a case would be to fix a range for the index for getting into the buying mood. For instance, the index level could be in the range of 14,000-14 ,200 or even 13,500-13 ,800.

While the broader index level can make you jump into a buying mood, keep an eye on your individual stocks. There have been instances where individual stocks have managed to hold on to their levels or not buck up under pressure despite the general weakness. While such instances are far and few, investors should look for such stocks and investment decisions need to be driven by the strength and weakness of individual stocks.

While picking stocks in a weak market is probably much easier, particularly in large-cap stocks, another option for equity investors is to allocate a portion of the corpus for mutual funds too. Mutual funds allow you to buy into a larger basket of stocks and it\'s probably much easier for investors to take exposure in the current scenario. The added advantage with mutual funds is the fact that a systematic approach is much easier thanks to daily systematic transfer or weekly systematic investment plans.


-Srikala Bhashyam, ET Bureau
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28 Aug 2008 15:23
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no way to go 85+ nothing go up in six month it is a long time togo.
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CORPORATE EVENTS

Posted by : Guest

It should reach the issue price within a month.85+

28 Aug 2008 14:01
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I think new RBI gov. needed now as policies seem big failures. CRR hiked even at Inflation 3.5%. & this is really the time at Iflation 12.9% when aggressive CRR hikes should be done. but cant do that now. So, entire policy went opposite. Is it purposely done to weakene the rupee?. It actually, made huge price rise in Gold & crude. may be it is manupulated for gold....

28 Aug 2008 13:50

Hey pete pan cool down. I dont think storm going to happen So speculation in crude is not justifying. I think losses are around the corner. If storm doesnt occur then Seeing crude closer to USd 106 per barrel....

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Storms post-Gustav to spike crude sharply: Peter McGuire

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Peter McGuire, Managing Director, Commodity Warrants believes that crude may move closer to the USD 125 per barrel mark if more storms follow Hurricane Gustav. He sees USD 110 and USD 120 per barrel as major barriers for crude to cross.

28 Aug 2008 13:50

Peter McGuire, Managing Director, Commodity Warrants believes that crude may move closer to the USD 125 per barrel mark if more storms follow Hurricane Gustav. He sees USD 110 and USD 120 per barrel as major barriers for crude to cross. ...

28 Aug 2008 11:53

India\'s largest private sector aluminium maker by sales Hindalco Industries was trading at Rs 123.45. The stock started trading on an ex-rights basis today. The right issue is in the ratio of 3:7, priced at Rs 96 each.
India’s largest power equipment maker by sales, Bharat Heavy Electricals lost 1.44% to Rs 1657.15. It was the top loser from Sensex pack.
Banking shares overturned after firm start ahead of the inflation data due after market hours today, 28 August 2008. ICICI Bank (down 0.45% to Rs 645.95), HDFC Bank (down 1.34% to Rs 1216.90), and State Bank of India (down 1.18% to Rs 1315.25), declined.
DLF (down 1.11% to Rs 472.60), Reliance Infrastructure (down 1% to Rs 956), and Larsen & Toubro (down 0.93% to Rs 2552.50) edged lower from the Sensex pack.
India\'s largest oil exploration firm Oil & Natural Gas Corporation shed 0.84% to Rs 997.20. British oil and gas explorer Imperial Energy said on Tuesday, 26 August 2008, that its management has agreed to a takeover from ONGC worth 1.4 billion pounds ($ 2.6 billion).
India’s largest private sector firm by market capitalization and oil refiner Reliance Industries (RIL) slipped 0.74% to Rs 2131 on 2.60 lakh shares. On 26 Tuesday, August 2008, RIL confirmed media reports that it is planning to transfer 80% of its participatory interest (PI) in the D6 block in the Krishna Godavari (KG) basin to four unlisted subsidiaries.
India’s top cellular services provider by market capitalisation Bharti Airtel rose 1.44% to Rs 815.70. It was the top gainer from the Sensex pack.
Maruti Suzuki India (up 0.73% to Rs 631), Sterlite Industries (up 1.17% to Rs 620), ACC (up 0.81% to Rs 563), edged higher from the Sensex pack.
Marksans Pharma rose 5% to Rs 20.35 after the company said it has acquired 100% stake in Relonchem, a leading UK based generic pharmaceutical company, for an undisclosed sum. The company made this announcement before trading hours today, 28 August 2008.
Sun Pharmaceuticals Industries rose 0.16% to Rs 1484 after the company said it has won a case in Israel filed against it by Taro Pharmaceutical Industries regarding an open offer for the latter.
Sterlite Technologies gained 2.59% to Rs 178.50 after the company said it has bagged four orders aggregating to Rs 278 crore for supply of power conductors. The company made this announcement during trading hours today, 28 August 2008.
Most Asian markets were trading lower today, 28 August 2008. Key benchmark indices in Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan were down by between 0.05% and 1.87%. However China’s Shanghai Composite rose 0.14%.
US stocks rose yesterday, 27 August 2008, as unexpectedly strong data on durable goods orders soothed concerns about the sluggish economy while Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac led a rally in financial shares. The Dow Jones industrial average gained 89.64 points or 0.79% to 11502.51. The S&P 500 rose 10.15 points or 0.80% to 1,281.66. The Nasdaq Composite gained 20.49 points or 0.87% to 2382.46.
Back home key benchmark indices fell sharply in late trade yesterday, 27 August 2008, snapping a three-day winning streak. The BSE Sensex lost 185.43 points or 1.28% to 14,296.79 and the S&P CNX Nifty slipped 45.40 points or 1.05% at 4292.10.
Foreign institutional investors (FIIs) were net equity sellers worth Rs 32.49 crore while mutual funds purchased shares worth Rs 163.27 crore on Wednesday, 27 August 2008, according to provisional data on NSE.
FIIs were net buyers of Rs 848.41 crore in the futures & options segment on Wednesday, 27 August 2008. They were net buyers of index futures to the tune of Rs 224.25 crore and purchased index options worth Rs 426.86 crore. They were net buyers of stock futures to the tune of Rs 166.95 crore and bought stock options worth Rs 30.35 crore.

courtesy CM...

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MID-SESSION
Bank shares slide
The market drifted lower in mid-morning trade led by fall in banking shares which overturned after firm start. The BSE 30-share Sensex was down 62.16 points. Rise in crude oil prices weighed on the sentiments. Global cues were mixed.
As per reports, marketwide rollover of positions from August 2008 series to September 2008 series stood at 62% while that of Nifty was at 56%, as of Wednesday, 26 August 2008. The rollovers are in line with those in previous series. August 2008 derivatives contracts expire today, 28 August 2008.
Inflation based on the wholesale price index is forecast to have risen to a fresh 16-year high for the year through 16 August 2008. The government will release the inflation data after market hours today, 28 August 2008
On the New York Mercantile Exchange, October 2008 crude rose $1.88 at $118.15 per barrel, yesterday, 27 August 2008 on fears that Tropical Storm Gustav could interrupt oil and natural gas output in the Gulf of Mexico.
At 11:25 IST, the BSE 30-share Sensex was down 62.16 points or 0.43% to 14,235.61. Sensex gained 50.40 points at day’s high of 14,347.19 hit in early trade. At the day’s low of 14,221.83 struck in mid-morning trade, the Sensex lost 74.96 points.
The S&P CNX Nifty slipped 16.30 points or 0.38% to 4,275.80
The market breadth turned negative on BSE with 1212 shares declining as compared to 849 that advanced. 93 remained unchanged.
The BSE Mid-Cap indices fell 0.27% to 5,671.14 and the BSE Small-Cap index lost 0.34% to 6,836.38
The total turnover on BSE amounted to Rs 976 crore at 11:30 IST as compared to Rs 295 crore by 10:30 IST.
Among the 30-member Sensex pack, 17 declined while the rest advanced.

courtesy CM...

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STOCKS
* APOLLO TYRES: Plant near Chennai to be ready by 2009-end. (BL)
.
* MAHINDRA & MAHINDRA: In takeover talks with Italian 2-wheeler maker
Malaguti Moto. (ET)
Mahindra Tractors launches in Turkey. (BL)
.
* MIRC ELECTRONICS: Is targeting to be among the top three players in terms
of market share for each of its products by 2009-10 (Apr-Mar). (NW18)
.
* NAVNEET INDIA: Is planning to invest 120 mln rupees to expand its
printing facilities in Gujarat by the end of this financial year. (NW18)
.
* PYRAMID SAIMIRA: Set to buy U.K.\'s Reel Cinemas. (ET)
.
* STEEL AUTHORITY OF INDIA: Is planning to expand its existing mines to meet
the company\'s rising demand as output grows. (NW18)
.
* SUN PHARMACEUTICALS INDUSTRIES: A Tel Aviv district court has ruled in
favour on the company\'s tender offer for Israel\'s Taro Pharmaceutical
Industries\'
shares. (NW18)
.
* TATA MOTORS: Reliance Industries\' Mukesh Ambani backs Tata Nano investment
in Singur. (Var)
.
* UTV SOFTWARE COMMUNICATIONS: Walt Disney\'s open offer for 20% additional
stake in the company is still awaiting approval from Securities and Exchange
Board of India. (NW18)
.
* V-GUARD INDUSTRIES: Tamil Nadu and Uttarakhand plants to start commercial
production by the end of this year. (BL)
.
* VIDEOCON INDUSTRIES and BHARAT PETROLEUM: Picked 10% each in an offshore oil
exploration block in Mozambique. (BS)
VIDEOCON eyes oilfields in Qatar, Kuwait. (ToI)
.
* ZANDU PHARMACEUTICALS: Company Law Board refers matter on proposed hostile
take-over bid from Emami back to Securities and Exchange Board of India. (BS)
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INDICATORS (previous session)
* Institutional net buy/(sale) in mln rupees, Aug 26: FIIs (5,060), MFs 871
* Sensex 14296.79, down 185.43 points; Nifty 4292.10, down 45.40 points
* Other markets:Crude:$118.15/bbl; rupee:43.76;gold $831.25/ounce;10-yr
yld:8.88%
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28 Aug 2008 10:47

TOP EVENTS TODAY—

* Annual General Meetings of: Advani Hotels & Resorts (India), Apollo
Hospitals Enterprise, Aries Agro, Celebrity Fashions, Cipla, Dish TV India,
Financial Technologies (India), Godfrey Phillips India, Hester Biosciences,
India Cements, India Motor Parts and Accessories, Ispat Industries, KEI
Industries, Kirloskar Ferrous Industries, Mascon Global, Midpoint Software &
Electro Systems, Ram Kaashyap Investment, Sirpur Paper Mills, and Tata Steel,
among others.

* Board Meetings of:----
+ Ballarpur Industries, Bodal Chemicals, CCL Products, Madhucon Projects,
Maharashtra Seamless, Patel Integrated Logistics, Jagdamba Polymers and
Todays Writing Products to consider dividend.
+ Mascon Global, to issue international securities by way of GDRs.
+ National General Industries, to consider amalgamate National
General Industries with Modi Metal Udyog.
+ Nectar Lifesciences, to consider the issue of GDRs/ADRs/equity shares or
warrants/securities convertible into equity shares.
+ Panchsheel Organics, to mull issue of shares on preferential basis.
+ S Kumars Com to consider raising long-term resources including issue of
fresh share capital and warrants.

s and m
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27 Aug 2008 15:26

STOCKS

Posted by : tpsu
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But why the share price is falling if they are not losing anything....

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STOCKS

Posted by : zoombusiness

Sir,
Owner is Reliance Industries.
This devidation is for work and project purpose.
It will not affect share holder and profit.
this is for them not for share holders. We are not loosing or gaining anything.
Regards

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