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29 Aug 2008 21:03

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2916

Dear nadhi,

The invitations have already been posted

Yes, they are running serials; 29 is date and 16th message.

I am requesting all to refer this when they reply

(Though the result reminds me of the famous dialogue of the movie 16 vayathiniley,in which Kamal tells Sridevi'naanthan en peyru Gopalakrishnan nu sollikittu alayaren!Oru paya enna appadi koopida maatengiraan!')

This was specifically made for our nightowl, who posts a reply like,

'lols;lols sooo nyce of you googal;you had me in splits,though i dont agree with wat u say!'

and converting me into 'google' to search about 300 odd of my messages to find out which one she may be referring to!

BTW,When is your next visit to airport?

Regards,...

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Googled

Posted by : nadhi

Dear Googol,

My task is not over. I am back for a short stay. I will go again.

Then call KFactor, Sainik and snsiva. We miss them a lot. By the way what is that number on the top. Your messages serial number?

regards

nadhi

29 Aug 2008 20:29

Googled

Posted by : nadhi
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Dear Googol,

My task is not over. I am back for a short stay. I will go again.

Then call KFactor, Sainik and snsiva. We miss them a lot. By the way what is that number on the top. Your messages serial number?

regards

nadhi...

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2915

Welcome back dear nadhi and we were missing you!Hope all your personal work have been completed.

MOD wants our views on the new looks of MMB.He also wants all the old stalwarts to come back home (read: MMB)

Regards,

29 Aug 2008 20:25

Dear GV,
Am sorry to say that whatever you have said in your above message does not in any away try to prove your primary argument, which is the \\`existence of God\\`. Am even more sorry to say that your ideas and thoughts seem all jumbled up..... in a way you sound confused.
My impartial suggestion to you would be to open your mind and read a book by a author Frank stiller, \\`GOD?\\`. This is not a very popular book, same goes for the author. Try on the net. Am sure after reading it you will start have your doubts about the supreme power you are talking about.
...singh... ...

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Posted by : gv

Dear Atheist,
Let me try to say a few things
When i said knowledge is god,it is yes
Because we have that,we have him inside us
Realizing that truth is,which is the bliss-saints where able to achieve

We cannot explain God thru science because it is beyond science
You were explaining various invention of humans
Did they find some thing which did not exist,as their knowledge increased
They understood more,the came up with new invention,and this is going to keep them finding more and more
It is like a man finding more and more from a treasure house
It is created by some one else and he found it
That is how scientific findings are
Now a simple question arises
Can man create a planet?stars?Black holes?
He can simulate these ideas and try to understand them
But cannot create in the size that exists
We are trying to understand 4th dimension time,they are trying to explain by working on sting theory---Long way to go
What these show?we are are finding more and more secret that exist
So we are looking at the supreme intelligence which created these
If we want to understand elephant we have to see it in whole
But if we started looking at trunk,legs,eyes etc etc it may look like
each is an invention(just example of partially looking)
Or Say looking at trees and not forest
so understanding god cannot be done with limited intelligence
It requires greater effort which was done by our sages
If we look a bit more with emotion and trust,would you imagine
Buddha paid a hoax on people?
My impartial suggestion read some books of J Krishnamurti
you will get some idea and question answered
Regds
GV




29 Aug 2008 20:23

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Posted by : googol
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2915

Welcome back dear nadhi and we were missing you!Hope all your personal work have been completed.

MOD wants our views on the new looks of MMB.He also wants all the old stalwarts to come back home (read: MMB)

Regards,...

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Posted by : nadhi

Dear Bhavani,

I am in total ignorance of slokams. Thanks for your help in explaining the meaning of the slokam. As you know my feelings about worshipping, I skip over it. But your comparison of the slokam is excellent. I do nothing without conviction. Once I have faith in a stock nothing makes me to waver. I believe in the warren theory that the results are lot easier to predict than the emotions. The nature of the game that is played now is based on emotions and so I have nothing to do with it. I will never allow the market to swallow me. Do you know the best talent of Sunil gavaskar? He is the best in the business when it comes to evading the bouncers. He will look at it till the last fraction of a second and will make the slightest movement of his head and will evade it. The self confidence and conviction personified cricketer he was. I admire him for this quality than the runs he scored. Courage and conviction. That is what we need here too.

regards

nadhi

29 Aug 2008 20:00

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Posted by : Bhavani27
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Yes indeed; there are times when discretion is the better part of valor.

SARVAM KRISHNAARPANAM
Bhavani...

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Posted by : nadhi

Dear Bhavani,

I am in total ignorance of slokams. Thanks for your help in explaining the meaning of the slokam. As you know my feelings about worshipping, I skip over it. But your comparison of the slokam is excellent. I do nothing without conviction. Once I have faith in a stock nothing makes me to waver. I believe in the warren theory that the results are lot easier to predict than the emotions. The nature of the game that is played now is based on emotions and so I have nothing to do with it. I will never allow the market to swallow me. Do you know the best talent of Sunil gavaskar? He is the best in the business when it comes to evading the bouncers. He will look at it till the last fraction of a second and will make the slightest movement of his head and will evade it. The self confidence and conviction personified cricketer he was. I admire him for this quality than the runs he scored. Courage and conviction. That is what we need here too.

regards

nadhi

29 Aug 2008 19:39

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Posted by : nadhi
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Dear Bhavani,

I am in total ignorance of slokams. Thanks for your help in explaining the meaning of the slokam. As you know my feelings about worshipping, I skip over it. But your comparison of the slokam is excellent. I do nothing without conviction. Once I have faith in a stock nothing makes me to waver. I believe in the warren theory that the results are lot easier to predict than the emotions. The nature of the game that is played now is based on emotions and so I have nothing to do with it. I will never allow the market to swallow me. Do you know the best talent of Sunil gavaskar? He is the best in the business when it comes to evading the bouncers. He will look at it till the last fraction of a second and will make the slightest movement of his head and will evade it. The self confidence and conviction personified cricketer he was. I admire him for this quality than the runs he scored. Courage and conviction. That is what we need here too.

regards

nadhi ...

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Posted by : Bhavani27

Dear PQ and Nadhi Uncle too:

yo yo yam yam tanum bhaktah shraddhayarcitum icchati
tasya tasyacalam shraddham tam eva vidadhamy aham
[chapter 7, slokam 21

Since as the super soul I am in everyone’s heart, no sooner does one desire to worship some entity than I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to that particular form.

Since making money in the stock markets is everyone’s aim, no sooner has an investor done appropriate and due diligence than the markets make his trust in his methods and strategies steadfast so that he can concentrate on this activity. However, the moment he wavers in his confidence in his own judgment the market just swallows him.

SARVAM KRISHNAARPANAM
Bhavani

29 Aug 2008 19:16

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Posted by : Bhavani27
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Dear PQ and Nadhi Uncle too:

yo yo yam yam tanum bhaktah shraddhayarcitum icchati
tasya tasyacalam shraddham tam eva vidadhamy aham
[chapter 7, slokam 21

Since as the super soul I am in everyone’s heart, no sooner does one desire to worship some entity than I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to that particular form.

Since making money in the stock markets is everyone’s aim, no sooner has an investor done appropriate and due diligence than the markets make his trust in his methods and strategies steadfast so that he can concentrate on this activity. However, the moment he wavers in his confidence in his own judgment the market just swallows him.

SARVAM KRISHNAARPANAM
Bhavani

...

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Posted by : nadhi

Dear PQ,

Thanks for your advice. Will try my best.

regards

nadhi

29 Aug 2008 19:14

Dear Atheist,
Let me try to say a few things
When i said knowledge is god,it is yes
Because we have that,we have him inside us
Realizing that truth is,which is the bliss-saints where able to achieve

We cannot explain God thru science because it is beyond science
You were explaining various invention of humans
Did they find some thing which did not exist,as their knowledge increased
They understood more,the came up with new invention,and this is going to keep them finding more and more
It is like a man finding more and more from a treasure house
It is created by some one else and he found it
That is how scientific findings are
Now a simple question arises
Can man create a planet?stars?Black holes?
He can simulate these ideas and try to understand them
But cannot create in the size that exists
We are trying to understand 4th dimension time,they are trying to explain by working on sting theory---Long way to go
What these show?we are are finding more and more secret that exist
So we are looking at the supreme intelligence which created these
If we want to understand elephant we have to see it in whole
But if we started looking at trunk,legs,eyes etc etc it may look like
each is an invention(just example of partially looking)
Or Say looking at trees and not forest
so understanding god cannot be done with limited intelligence
It requires greater effort which was done by our sages
If we look a bit more with emotion and trust,would you imagine
Buddha paid a hoax on people?
My impartial suggestion read some books of J Krishnamurti
you will get some idea and question answered
Regds
GV




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received from a friend.....

Posted by : Atheist

Dear GV,
Am sorry to say this but i don\\`t see the the connection between knowledge and God. What exactly do you mean when you say, \\`knowledge is God\\`.
Now, for example, I have knowledge of simple arithmetic, does it mean i have God in me??? I am confused by your comments.
Another example, i have knowledge required to ride a bike, does that mean i have god in me.
Sorry, but your comments make no sense to me.
could you please enlighten me with a clear explanation about THE \\`knowledge\\` you are talking about, that according to you is God.
Now, coming to life......I am sure you will not deny the fact that nothing much was known about animal life a few 100 years ago. But with every passing day some knowledge is being gained about life, and how it exists.
Life does not come from anywhere, Its a just the existence of an animal. An animal(including humans) is alive till his body is being nourished with food, oxygen and water. You stop one of these and he is dead and his body decomposes. Just like a automobile which requires fire, fuel and oxygen to keep running, take out one of these and the automobile comes to a stop.
The difference between a Human and a automobile being that a Human is a FAR MORE COMPLEX contraption than a automobile, having complex qualities like senses, emotions, conscience etc...
A few hundred years ago we dint even have a simple automobile and the very thought of having a machine that could transport you to a place 1000s of miles far in a few hours could seem like a big JOKE.
Now we have planes that that fly at super sonic speeds...
We have managed to create life virtually outside an animal body...cloning.
If you read todays TIMES IF INDIA edition, you will see that scientists are saying that the day is not far when we will be able to extend animal life to the required age.
With every advancing day a lot of unanswered questions ATTRIBUTED ONLY TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD are being unraveled by science..
At this rate the day should not be far when people will start believing that everything non explainable by humans which was attributed to GOD, coz we humans did not have the vision to expalin the unexplainable and CONVENIENTLY CREATED A GOD, to escape from our own shortcomings.
I reiterate my earlier statement...God was created by us humans due to lack of confidence in ourselves.
...Singh...

29 Aug 2008 19:12

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Posted by : nadhi
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Dear Bhavani,

Nope. Can you please make me remember?

regards

nadhi

P.S: I have not logged in for the past 3 days. Happy to see MOD reacting to boarders. ...

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Posted by : Bhavani27

Uncle, do you remember the yoyo yamyam?

SARVAM KRISHNAARPANAM
Bhavani

29 Aug 2008 19:06

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Posted by : Bhavani27
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Uncle, do you remember the yoyo yamyam?

SARVAM KRISHNAARPANAM
Bhavani...

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Posted by : nadhi

Dear PQ,

Thanks for your advice. Will try my best.

regards

nadhi

29 Aug 2008 18:53

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Dear PQ,

Thanks for your advice. Will try my best.

regards

nadhi...

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Posted by : pitquote

Dear Mr nadi
Let make it simple. It is a repeat. PENCILS ERASERS BECAUSE WE MAKE MISTAKES. ERASE YOUR MISTAKES AND WRITE ON THE WALL. Cheers

29 Aug 2008 18:48

If I knew it would be the last time I'd see you fall asleep,
I would tuck you in more tightly and "pray the Lord, your soul to keep."

If I knew it would be the last time I'd see you walk out the door,
I would give you a hug and kiss you, and call you back for more.

If I knew it would be the last time I'd hear your voice lifted up in praise,
I would video tape each action and word, so I could play them back day after day.

If I knew it would be the last time I could spare an extra minute or so
to stop and say "I love you," instead of assuming you would know I do.

If I knew it would be the last time I would be there to share your day,
I'm sure you'll have so many more, so I can let just this one slip away.

For surely there's always tomorrow to make up for an oversight,
and we always get a second chance to make everything right.

There will always be another day, to say our "I love you's",
and certainly there's another chance to say our "Anything I can do's?"

But, just in case I might be wrong, and today is all I get,
I'd like to say how much I love you, and I hope we never forget.

Tomorrow is not promised to anyone, young or old alike,
and today may be the last chance you get to hold your loved one tight.

So, if you're waiting for tomorrow, why not do it today?
For, if tomorrow never comes, you'll surely regret the day...

That you didn't take that extra time for a smile, a hug, or a kiss,
and you were too busy to grant someone, what turned out to be their one last wish.

So, hold your loved ones close today, and whisper in their ear,
that you love them very much and you'll always hold them dear.

Take time to say "I'm sorry," "Please forgive me," "thank you," or "its okay".
And if tomorrow never comes, you'll have no regrets about today.


(author-unknown)...

29 Aug 2008 13:32

Dear Periwinkle,
I NEVER have even once in my messages ever said that i blame God for all the suffering and pain around us. In fact my primary argument has been that THERE IS NO GOD, the pain and suffering is our own doing and has to be dealt with by us HUMANS. If there were to be a loving merciful OMNIPOTENT God, our world would not be in a MISERABLE DEPLORABLE PATHETIC condition that it is in today. Instead of blaming a non existent God and Waiting for a non existent God to take the form of a MESSIAH, come to this world and solve our problems, we should start thinking practically to help our world which is OUR OWN.
All the so called MESSIAHS of GOD, who were supposed to have taken birth in this world to alleviate human beings of all evil seem to have done EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE by creating confused minds which are scared to think on their own and scared about what might happen to them after they are dead, and hence they mindlessly follow the instructions of those Messengers of chanting some obscure names and reading the scriptures over and over in the hope that they will not be punished in their afterlives for all the sins they have committed on this earth, some sins in open and more sins hidden from the prying eyes of their brethren.
...Singh... ...

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Posted by : periwinkle

Thanks dear Atheist for answering my questions;

(the reason I asked for your age – if you are still young, as you obviously are, there is still hope for fresh thinking and change of mind; especially when you read other people’s arguments carefully.)
We seem to live in an age of unbelief, and even though there are many reasons for believing in God many do not believe. Even those who believe often find themselves doubting. Perhaps the thing that causes us to doubt the most is the problem of pain and suffering. Our problem is this: If there is a God of love, and if He is omniscient and omnipotent, how can He allow all of the pain and suffering we see in the world around us? There seems to be a contradiction there - IF THERE IS NO GOD to blame for the present condition of the world, who then do we blame for the terrible things? Subtract God from the equation and it’s all our fault. This being the case, we have to ask ourselves whether the creatures capable of producing such things – we – do we deserve a better world than the one in which we live right now?
The problem isn’t of God allowing evil but ourselves allowing evil. The question that we are now faced with isn’t how can God justify Himself to us but how will we justify our immorality to Him!!!

It’s almost funny, evil is a huge obstacle to belief in God but God is the only solution to the evil in this world.

Just a little suggestion, dear Atheist, in the silence or stillness of the early morning hours, try and listen to the heartbeat of your ownself and think on these lines – how is it with all the scientific developments, no one has ever been able to give life to the tiniest creature in the world….may be you will come to the logical conclusion that there must be someone and only one that is capable of giving that life….and that life is nothing but the spark of this only One's existence in ourselves which is there to remind us the Source to which we belong…

29 Aug 2008 12:47

Dear GV,
Am sorry to say this but i don\\`t see the the connection between knowledge and God. What exactly do you mean when you say, \\`knowledge is God\\`.
Now, for example, I have knowledge of simple arithmetic, does it mean i have God in me??? I am confused by your comments.
Another example, i have knowledge required to ride a bike, does that mean i have god in me.
Sorry, but your comments make no sense to me.
could you please enlighten me with a clear explanation about THE \\`knowledge\\` you are talking about, that according to you is God.
Now, coming to life......I am sure you will not deny the fact that nothing much was known about animal life a few 100 years ago. But with every passing day some knowledge is being gained about life, and how it exists.
Life does not come from anywhere, Its a just the existence of an animal. An animal(including humans) is alive till his body is being nourished with food, oxygen and water. You stop one of these and he is dead and his body decomposes. Just like a automobile which requires fire, fuel and oxygen to keep running, take out one of these and the automobile comes to a stop.
The difference between a Human and a automobile being that a Human is a FAR MORE COMPLEX contraption than a automobile, having complex qualities like senses, emotions, conscience etc...
A few hundred years ago we dint even have a simple automobile and the very thought of having a machine that could transport you to a place 1000s of miles far in a few hours could seem like a big JOKE.
Now we have planes that that fly at super sonic speeds...
We have managed to create life virtually outside an animal body...cloning.
If you read todays TIMES IF INDIA edition, you will see that scientists are saying that the day is not far when we will be able to extend animal life to the required age.
With every advancing day a lot of unanswered questions ATTRIBUTED ONLY TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD are being unraveled by science..
At this rate the day should not be far when people will start believing that everything non explainable by humans which was attributed to GOD, coz we humans did not have the vision to expalin the unexplainable and CONVENIENTLY CREATED A GOD, to escape from our own shortcomings.
I reiterate my earlier statement...God was created by us humans due to lack of confidence in ourselves.
...Singh...
...

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Posted by : gv

Hi Atheist,
I was reading the posts in the thread with interest
I have couple of things to say/ask
Do you accept knowledge?
I am sure you will
How do you show your knowledge?Can you physically as a hardware, show it?I am afraid not,it is not material
Another one
Can you scientifically explain where your life is?in your body?
Where is the force coming from?
Why we are all having names,what is the need for this?
Animals don't have (we name pets)
The knowledge is the one we are talking about is GOD
And the religions,teachings,Vedas explain and ask us to do
In simple language it is stated in Gayatri
Hope you don't mind my point of view
Regds
GV



29 Aug 2008 11:39

When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours in a day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar and the 2 cups of coffee .

A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him. When the class began, he wordlessly picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full.. They agreed that it was.

The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the
jar He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between
the golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They
agreed it was.

The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar.
Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked once more if the jar was full. The students respon ded with an unanimous 'yes.'

The professor then produced two cups of coffee from under the table and
poured the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty space
between the sand. The students laughed.
'Now,' said the professor as the laughter subsided, 'I want you to recognize
that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are the important things---your
family, your children, your health, your friends and your favorite passions---and
if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still
be full.


The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house and your car.

The sand is everything else---the small stuff. 'If you put the sand into the jar first,' he continued, 'there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for life. If you spend all your time and energy
on the small stuff you will never have room for the things that are important
to you.

'Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.. Spend
time with your children. Spend time with your parents.. Visit with grandparents...
Take time to get medical checkups. Take your spouse out to dinner. Play
another 18. There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal.
Take care of the golf balls first---the things that really matter. Set
your priorities. The rest is just sand.'

One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the coffee represented.
The professor smiled and said, 'I'm glad you asked.'

The coffee just shows you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's
always room for a couple of cups of coffee with a friend.'...

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