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Teledata Informatics

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05 Dec 2008 08:16

Transparent policy towards its shareholders

Posted by : Guest
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 6.00 ( 5.08 % ), NSE: Rs. 6.00 ( 4.35 % )
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I request somebody who is going to attend the General body meeting of the teledata company to kindly takeup the undernoted issues at the meeting.

1) Promotor`s Quota : Since last one month, the Company`s share is available for just around Rs.5/- in the stock market. At this price, the Company can happily buy the shares from the open market @ around Rs.5 per share and can easily increase promoter`s quota from 25% to 50%, by using cash available with the Company. Later, when the market picks up, they can sell the extra shares to foreign investers / domestic market. In this way, they will be also helping the share price of the Company to improve.

2) Transparent policy towards the shareholders : Since last three quarters, the profit has come down compared to corresponding period. But, the Company has not offered any reasons/explanation/ comments/ future guidance about the performance. On the contrary,they have even avoided publishing their quarterly results in prominent Newspapers. The Other software companies, ( big, medium & small ) are very transparent, give briefings as to why their profits have come down and have a very transparent policy towards their shareholders. It is for this reason that the Teledata is having the lowest P/E ratio of just 0.5 amongst all the software companies in the World. No other software company in the World is having such a low P/E ratio of just 0.5. The average P/E ratio in the software industry is around twenty ( 20 ).The P/E ratio reflects the confidence the investing public has on a Company. Teledata`s poor record in this count is because of their not taking the investing public into confidence. Teledata must therefore have a transparent policy towards your shareholders.

3) Relationship with Press People: Teledata`s relationship with the Press People is very very poor. That is why, even during the period when the Company was producing excellant results( year ending March,2007), and when they were claiming that their Company is the six largest Indian Software Company after H.C.L.TECH., none of the Newspaper took them seriously and ignored the Company. While all these Newspapers wrote regular briefings about performances of all other software companies ( big, medium & small ), they were silent about Teledata. The Company should therefore improve their relationship with Press people. ...

04 Dec 2008 20:36

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : HK65
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.......... and make sure .. Paddy is alive ... :))...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat

Dear HK65,

Has esys shifted to sun :))

cheers
Barat

04 Dec 2008 20:06

soltius soltius soltius

Posted by : Guest
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anybody know anything about soltius?
yesterday pro said it is not a subsidiary. is it true?
help...

04 Dec 2008 16:26

Great

Posted by : Guest
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What has happened to teledata..great things are happening.. 25p jump today with 3 lac volume..something gr8 happening in this counter...

04 Dec 2008 14:55

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.94 ( 4.03 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.90 ( 2.61 % )
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Dear HK65,

Just realised from ur msg that chandrayan-I was to shift TTML to the moon. Goch now the AGM will happen in moon!!!

Chandrayan -II will shift the navakun ships (famously called as RUSTED SHIPS by many) which is a famous discussion theme in this board. But i am sure there will be new findings every day so that shifting to other planets and stars can continue.

ISRO will be a profitable organisation and we all should shift from TDIL / TMS / TTS to ISRO when govt issues stake due to much preferred customer.

Cheers
Barat
...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : HK65

There is no announcements so far for anything... one long year...
Looks like TTML office is shifted on moon and TTSL on Mars, TDIL is already gone to Saturn... :))

04 Dec 2008 14:48

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat
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Dear HK65,

Has esys shifted to sun :))

cheers
Barat...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : HK65

There is no announcements so far for anything... one long year...
Looks like TTML office is shifted on moon and TTSL on Mars, TDIL is already gone to Saturn... :))

04 Dec 2008 12:57

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : bababull
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.91 ( 3.50 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.95 ( 3.48 % )
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dear moron,

u mean to say that esys, which has annual revenues of 10000 cr + has been consolidated in prev Qtr. If that is true then prev Qtr or Qtr before that revenue of teledata should have been 2500-3000 cr. Any ideas?

And further regarding esys, there is news & not rumour that it is selling its building in changi north, singapore. Is esys exiting singapore & shifting base to india?

God knows what is going on in esys....

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : moron

bababull,
Esys is a subsidiary of TD and its accounts are part of the consolidated results of TD. I reconfirmed that in the last year AR. I missed that out last time.

Esys was supposed to go with tts but, since it was acquired after the appointed date of demerger scheme, it has not happened.

Nobody has said that silver harvest is not a 100 percent subsidiary of TD. So, lets not jump the gun. Paddy plays by the rule book, though not in the spirit of the rules. Its very likely that the 5.5 cr shares belong to TD, bcos that`s what was in the scheme of arrangement and the share pattern cannot change before listing as per sebi norms.

the dumb guy

04 Dec 2008 12:55

A wild speculation

Posted by : bamboonew
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thanks Balusir. Awaiting your reply
thanks......

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A wild speculation

Posted by : sbalu

I`ll look into it..!
With thanks,
-sbalu

04 Dec 2008 10:53

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : 10rathge
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.82 ( 1.93 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.80 ( 0.87 % )
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Yaa, you are absolutely correct. He is in vanvaasam just because of atf.
Dashrathji...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat

Dear Googol sar,

Namaskaram.

You missed to mention that our Ram has gone on a vanawasam. Its good that Ravan is here.

D-day is nearing for our get2gether.

cheers
Barat

04 Dec 2008 10:50

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : 10rathge
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Hi HK65, Why you are getting nervous yaar ? Afterall you are a TD bull and you should not use this kind of words for your master.
Dasrathji...

04 Dec 2008 10:44

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : mb7419
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My earlier reply did not get posted, so resending.

On whether silver harvest is a 100% subsidary, please check the subdidary and associate list on pg 59/60 in the last AR. You should have your answer.

A known dissapointment may not create panic so my intention is only that ... ...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : moron

bababull,
Esys is a subsidiary of TD and its accounts are part of the consolidated results of TD. I reconfirmed that in the last year AR. I missed that out last time.

Esys was supposed to go with tts but, since it was acquired after the appointed date of demerger scheme, it has not happened.

Nobody has said that silver harvest is not a 100 percent subsidiary of TD. So, lets not jump the gun. Paddy plays by the rule book, though not in the spirit of the rules. Its very likely that the 5.5 cr shares belong to TD, bcos that`s what was in the scheme of arrangement and the share pattern cannot change before listing as per sebi norms.

the dumb guy

03 Dec 2008 22:42

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : HK65
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.71 ( 0.53 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.75 ( 1.77 % )
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There is no announcements so far for anything... one long year...
Looks like TTML office is shifted on moon and TTSL on Mars, TDIL is already gone to Saturn... :))...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat

Dear Googol sar,

Namaskaram.

You missed to mention that our Ram has gone on a vanawasam. Its good that Ravan is here.

D-day is nearing for our get2gether.

cheers
Barat

03 Dec 2008 22:10

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : Barat
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.71 ( 0.53 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.75 ( 1.77 % )
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Dear Googol sar,

Namaskaram.

You missed to mention that our Ram has gone on a vanawasam. Its good that Ravan is here.

D-day is nearing for our get2gether.

cheers
Barat...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : googol

very special stock this Teledata!

Supported both by Ram and Ravan ! !

;-)

03 Dec 2008 18:07

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : mb7419
Price when posted : BSE: Rs 5.75 ( 1.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 5.75 ( 1.77 % )
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If we refer to 2006 -07 AR on Pg 59 / 60, Silver Harvest is mentioned as a Associate Company (and not in Subsidary list as on previous page).

The scheme of arrangements (pg 40) is quite about who the existing shareholders of TTS , however 12 Cr existing share capital (6 CR share) before demerger are clearly mentioned.

Putting the 2 together the writing on this one seems to be on the wall, hoping that I am wrong and Paddy is more generous than needs to.

Bababull I am going only by publically available info so in dark on esys and solitius really, the info you shared is encouraging for TTS and the only real hope for a decent listing price. However I have my doubts for then TTS CEO on those review pages should have been somebody else ...
...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : moron

bababull,
Esys is a subsidiary of TD and its accounts are part of the consolidated results of TD. I reconfirmed that in the last year AR. I missed that out last time.

Esys was supposed to go with tts but, since it was acquired after the appointed date of demerger scheme, it has not happened.

Nobody has said that silver harvest is not a 100 percent subsidiary of TD. So, lets not jump the gun. Paddy plays by the rule book, though not in the spirit of the rules. Its very likely that the 5.5 cr shares belong to TD, bcos that`s what was in the scheme of arrangement and the share pattern cannot change before listing as per sebi norms.

the dumb guy

03 Dec 2008 17:38

How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : RAVANGE
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moron,

Why worry? We are all on long haul in TD. Which subsidiary is what let promoter understand, if promoter understands it, thats enough for us. Why should we understand all these tangles.

cheers
ravanji...

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How Promoters benefitted from demerger

Posted by : moron

bababull,
Esys is a subsidiary of TD and its accounts are part of the consolidated results of TD. I reconfirmed that in the last year AR. I missed that out last time.

Esys was supposed to go with tts but, since it was acquired after the appointed date of demerger scheme, it has not happened.

Nobody has said that silver harvest is not a 100 percent subsidiary of TD. So, lets not jump the gun. Paddy plays by the rule book, though not in the spirit of the rules. Its very likely that the 5.5 cr shares belong to TD, bcos that`s what was in the scheme of arrangement and the share pattern cannot change before listing as per sebi norms.

the dumb guy

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