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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by :
manju_berlinTracked by: 0 Boarder
Thank you
50% today and 50% tomorrow
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
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Be and Make
Dear manju – Don’t frustrate with the markets move, these swings are very natural in this equities. This random behavior is the inherent quality of the stock market; you should have to prepare for these swing moves.
Definitely markets are ready to touch the 8500 level for sensex it is sure. We are just passed the “global liquidity crunch” there is a hope that it might over. But, the real and big concern is “ GLOBAL RECESSION ”. We all are under this threat right now. Which is very big in magnitude, where the shares are just the papers nothing more than that, the stock prices will tumble and people will exit from this market at every level either it may be at 9000 or at 7000.
Yet we are not having the confirmed news but the big persons like noble winner paul, ex fed officials are expecting that we are marching in to a very very big RECESSION.
Better to sit with cash, you cant think about the technicals no support will give cushion markets will now only one word. That is SELL sell SELL.
In my view, at the end of October we are going to test the 2975 level do you believe this? (the key trigger to this call is Q2 results)
I already advised you that we are going to have a surprising rally and use that rally to re-construct your portfolio.
These are the panic situations where things will change in seconds; investors should think quickly and should have to take decisions in the same pace.
All the best
With thanks
Be and make
Gold at Stone Price- - RPL- - Mukesh Ambani
Posted by :
manika123Tracked by: 0 Boarder
now in market don`t think for gold there are too much diamond/platinum available like suzlon / techmahindra / sci/gipco/rcom/adlab/reliance infra.see the fundamentals of these stocks at this price and then think of rpl.soon u will see it at rs80....
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Gold at Stone Price- - RPL- - Mukesh Ambani
Posted by : Guest
Gold at Stone Price -- RPL -- MUKESH AMBANI
RPL quoting at very attractive level Rs.115-120. Mukesh Ambani got record for world`s Reachest Person in Dec.2007.Mukesh Ambani has Solid Business Mind right now Reliance is covering their stake in like RIL, bcoz they knows that RELIANCE is the company from where everybody will get good return including MUKESH Ambani also. Same case here for RPL due to some price correction in Crude/Oil and some Market Rumor RPL crashed but every share has his own limit for up and down.
I m in this Share-MKT from 1995 at that time I bought 2000 RIL at arround Rs.95 and I sold it on Dec.2007, why???? Bcoz Rs.3300 was limit for RIL for near-term and I re-entered at Rs.2000, I know very well that this is not LOSS-Contract, I will get 50-60% return within 1 year same case in RPL just BUY if you are thinking abt your Future DONT in Panic like Sensex will touch so and so level BUY RPL at so and so level, JUST check PAST what it say? RELIANCE means Tension FREEE, yaa right now in the MKT follow the Global News but that`s for some time. BUY RPL without any Panic, and one more important thing RPL is only the counter of MUKESH AMBANI, which is quoting on this PRICE. BUY and Forget, in this MKT no-one can say u perfect TGT of SenSEx or NIFTY, but one thing is Final that Short-Sellers have to cover their position b4 29-10-2008, they have short RPL from Rs.155-160, after Start Short-Cover U will see Rs.135-140 easily till the end of October,2008.
Gold at Stone Price- - RPL- - Mukesh Ambani
Posted by : GuestTracked by: 0 Boarder
Gold at Stone Price -- RPL -- MUKESH AMBANI
RPL quoting at very attractive level Rs.115-120. Mukesh Ambani got record for world`s Reachest Person in Dec.2007.Mukesh Ambani has Solid Business Mind right now Reliance is covering their stake in like RIL, bcoz they knows that RELIANCE is the company from where everybody will get good return including MUKESH Ambani also. Same case here for RPL due to some price correction in Crude/Oil and some Market Rumor RPL crashed but every share has his own limit for up and down.
I m in this Share-MKT from 1995 at that time I bought 2000 RIL at arround Rs.95 and I sold it on Dec.2007, why???? Bcoz Rs.3300 was limit for RIL for near-term and I re-entered at Rs.2000, I know very well that this is not LOSS-Contract, I will get 50-60% return within 1 year same case in RPL just BUY if you are thinking abt your Future DONT in Panic like Sensex will touch so and so level BUY RPL at so and so level, JUST check PAST what it say? RELIANCE means Tension FREEE, yaa right now in the MKT follow the Global News but that`s for some time. BUY RPL without any Panic, and one more important thing RPL is only the counter of MUKESH AMBANI, which is quoting on this PRICE. BUY and Forget, in this MKT no-one can say u perfect TGT of SenSEx or NIFTY, but one thing is Final that Short-Sellers have to cover their position b4 29-10-2008, they have short RPL from Rs.155-160, after Start Short-Cover U will see Rs.135-140 easily till the end of October,2008. ...
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : vkk43Tracked by: 0 Boarder
Definitely worst is yet to come. Actually, next qtr will be even worse than 2nd qtr. So we should just wait and watch. L&T, BHEL, Siemens cannot hold at current level in view of their not getting enough fresh orders, interest rate hike, margin pressure etc. etc. which will weaken the sensex further. Thanks for yr views....
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and Make
dear vkk43 - Then it is very disappointment news for the markets right now. Out of the thirty companies in Sensex twenty are trading below the 10PE the remaining are trading above this level are the cap goods and engg stocks like BHEL, L&T. If these companies are also having the margin pressure then the estimates will fell further which compress the PEs further... Very very bad news. From every sector we are seeing the margin pressure. These are the clear signals for a recession.
WORST IS BEHIND US
Stay with cash - This is my call
with thanks
be and make
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and MakeTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear girishkumarj – First sorry for your loss. I too exited with a minute loss when I exited from the RPL (Of course I made huge money in this counter and when compared with this, the loss is very minute). You kept a very big responsibility on my shoulders by using a simple word “I am following you blindly”. Thanks for your confidence and definitely I will retain your confidence.
Just made a simple calculation:
Now you are having 2000 shares @ 186/- and squared off right now means around 115/- means you are sitting with a loss 142000/- and now you are having a cash of 230000/-
If RPL slips further to 90/- then you will be able to buy 2500 shares of RPL and your break even point will become 148/-.
Just observe the Q2 results of the Reliance which will act as a trigger to this stock. Then take the decision in accordingly.
With thanks
Be and make
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : girishkumarj
Hi Be and Make,
I was having 2000 Shares at a price of 186. Just now i have sold with lot of pain, i am just blindly following your words. Because i belive that you would have done lot of ground work before you give such a call, kindly post a message when you find a right time to entry in to RPL.
Thanks in advance.
Girish.
Falling up to 9000 will happen in Oct itself : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA
Posted by :
sankarcjTracked by: 0 Boarder
Strongly support Mr.C.J.Mathews Sankarathil.MBA, as he said market have no chance to go down below 9000...
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Falling up to 9000 will happen in Oct itself : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA
Posted by : sandyp
Hallo sankarci.
Be sure market shall go below 6200 within a period of JUST 2 months or maximum DEC.2008. So TRUST upon me
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : phkTracked by: 0 Boarder
thanks-- be and make, for replying ,you may be right,//
I am long term trader and still sitting on profit//
I think i can afford//this has always been my habit//
I buy when every one sells and sell (SOME OF IT)when every one buys//
I have a tip for,RNRL//RELIANCE power//i will buy little, little at every fall and stop as soon as it starts going up (up to my limit)/
Remember No ONE can catch market//
one has also, to respect the market,//
my dear this market is for long term traders/
/(((ONLY IFYOU FULLFILL THIS CRITERIA)))---
please refer my 5 STAR ***** message,( to ST//DAY TRADERS/FNOS//which i had posted twice on board//
I always wish good for all boarders, hence I post messages//PHK//...
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and Make
Dear PHK - We are marching in to a recession (not in to a bear market) In this recession time no need to give stock picking ideas, at whatever level you buy you sit with loss. Better to wait for couple of weeks atleast things will stabilise then you can take such call. Ofcourse both the stcoks you mentioned are out of favour during the recession times. I think you better to study the previous cases to get much clear picture about the bear markets/recessions.
with thanks
be and make
Market fall will be limited to 9000 : C.J.Mathews Sankarathil.MBA
Posted by : sankarcjTracked by: 0 Boarder
Technical analyst C.J.Mathews Sankarathil,MBA is on the view that the market fall will be limited to 900 levels. Since the govt actions and RBI actions will help Indian market from falling to limited level. October will witness the last day of fall he added....
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and MakeTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear share views - FM repeatedly saying about the policy actions, due to the 5% fall we can expect some positive announcements from RBI/FM. Like further cut in CRR, ban on short positions etc.,
with thanks
be and make...
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : shareviews
Despite having heard about 20 K cores MF funding by RBI, market today is crashed again. Thats not at all a good sign. Hence can expect more downfall in the coming days. Be cautious.
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : girishkumarjTracked by: 0 Boarder
Hi Be and Make,
I was having 2000 Shares at a price of 186. Just now i have sold with lot of pain, i am just blindly following your words. Because i belive that you would have done lot of ground work before you give such a call, kindly post a message when you find a right time to entry in to RPL.
Thanks in advance.
Girish....
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and Make
dear vkk43 - Then it is very disappointment news for the markets right now. Out of the thirty companies in Sensex twenty are trading below the 10PE the remaining are trading above this level are the cap goods and engg stocks like BHEL, L&T. If these companies are also having the margin pressure then the estimates will fell further which compress the PEs further... Very very bad news. From every sector we are seeing the margin pressure. These are the clear signals for a recession.
WORST IS BEHIND US
Stay with cash - This is my call
with thanks
be and make
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and MakeTracked by: 0 Boarder
dear hembhat - I absolutely agree with your views, the most awaiting
rally is over and we are going in to next leg down. The new trading range will emerge. In my view, some policy announcements will come today or tommorow which will give another small rally.
with thanks
be and make...
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : hembhat
You are right. One has to be in cash totally. I personally feel that the void created by Investment Bankers is so huge that so far no one has made correct disclosure of losses. Therefore FIIs will be seeling till frontliners like RIL, Bharti, BHEL, L & T etc are totally decimated. So much that 50% of the investors will not return the market for next 5 years. Those who indulged in F & O, 50% of them will never see market again.
FIIs will take market to the level of 7000 also. Out of their existing investment of $ 260 Bn, they have taken out only $ 10 bn. The fall in indices have brought their holding to the level of $ 90 Bn. In coming months they will definitely take out another 10 Bn. We need to see a prolonged period of at least one year for indices to recover, as the speed of selling 1 Bn per month will take them another year at least.
All theories have no value, when scrips are thrown at whatever value.
If there is a ban on shaort sales, the market will plunge in lesser time, as there will not be a bounce, which is given by short sellers.
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and MakeTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear PHK - We are marching in to a recession (not in to a bear market) In this recession time no need to give stock picking ideas, at whatever level you buy you sit with loss. Better to wait for couple of weeks atleast things will stabilise then you can take such call. Ofcourse both the stcoks you mentioned are out of favour during the recession times. I think you better to study the previous cases to get much clear picture about the bear markets/recessions.
with thanks
be and make...
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : phk
Dear, be and make-----
//Buy// RNRL and RELIANCE POWER AT every Dip,I repeat again// IT is the best among all reliance group//
Start collecting ,few shares, at every fall///
JUST wait for 18 months to 2 years//
Please do not //ST///DAY TRADING//FNOS//at least for 3 MONTHS///
Also do not buy mutual funds for some time more ////
I advice often, but it seems no body , listens//PHK//
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : phkTracked by: 0 Boarder
Dear, be and make-----
//Buy// RNRL and RELIANCE POWER AT every Dip,I repeat again// IT is the best among all reliance group//
Start collecting ,few shares, at every fall///
JUST wait for 18 months to 2 years//
Please do not //ST///DAY TRADING//FNOS//at least for 3 MONTHS///
Also do not buy mutual funds for some time more ////
I advice often, but it seems no body , listens//PHK//
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and Make
dear hembhat - Thanks for your good words, the real panic will come in this counter on reliance Q2 results. Globaly refining margins are under great pressure and are at 15 year low and further dip in Q3.
Do you belive this?
with thanks
be and make
awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : hembhatTracked by: 0 Boarder
You are right. One has to be in cash totally. I personally feel that the void created by Investment Bankers is so huge that so far no one has made correct disclosure of losses. Therefore FIIs will be seeling till frontliners like RIL, Bharti, BHEL, L & T etc are totally decimated. So much that 50% of the investors will not return the market for next 5 years. Those who indulged in F & O, 50% of them will never see market again.
FIIs will take market to the level of 7000 also. Out of their existing investment of $ 260 Bn, they have taken out only $ 10 bn. The fall in indices have brought their holding to the level of $ 90 Bn. In coming months they will definitely take out another 10 Bn. We need to see a prolonged period of at least one year for indices to recover, as the speed of selling 1 Bn per month will take them another year at least.
All theories have no value, when scrips are thrown at whatever value.
If there is a ban on shaort sales, the market will plunge in lesser time, as there will not be a bounce, which is given by short sellers....
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awaiting for a surprising rally - Be and make
Posted by : Be and Make
dear vkk43 - Then it is very disappointment news for the markets right now. Out of the thirty companies in Sensex twenty are trading below the 10PE the remaining are trading above this level are the cap goods and engg stocks like BHEL, L&T. If these companies are also having the margin pressure then the estimates will fell further which compress the PEs further... Very very bad news. From every sector we are seeing the margin pressure. These are the clear signals for a recession.
WORST IS BEHIND US
Stay with cash - This is my call
with thanks
be and make
RPL`s short term outlook: 26-09-2008 (Be and Make)
Posted by : Be and MakeTracked by: 0 Boarder
This month we are going to see a sudden spike in the RPL price due to the board meeting will be held in this month. Everybody expecting some news regarding the production date will come. But, use this rally to cover your positions because in the near term we cant expect more from RPL fundamentally.
1. Global financial crisis damaged the sentiment.
2. At home we are having very weak fundamentals like high inflation, interest rates,
Govts huge fiscal deficit, upcoming elections, a dip in GDP etc.,
3. Production is not ahead of schedule as announced by the management but is either in nov/dec.
4. Due to the start of commercial production in dec08 then the expected EPS would be around 6 for FY09.
5. All the leading analysts like Kotak, Merryl, downgraded the stock and put the price target of 150/- as the high (previously it was at 208/-)
6. Globally GRMs dropping
7. There are somany political uncertainities on Mukesh group and amar singh is trying to use every opportunity to create vulnerable conditions on RIL like ban on EOU status, ban on oil exporting etc., but in my they are not easy to change for a particular company hence they may not be as easy as amar said. But, the government is considering the imposition of a minimum alternate tax (MAT) on units in SEZ like RPL. MAT would mean an 8-9% cut in RPL`s FY09-FY11E earnings and 4% (Rs6/share) cut in its PO.
8. Chevron stance still unclear.
9. One more important point is that RPL is having very high debt equity ratio, around 3. In these high interest rate times the companies will be will have high debt/equity ratio will badly hammered in margins. So, in this point RPL too have impact on its margins and will further effect the bottom line.
Yes, definetly there will be a spike in the upcoming days but I will not give any trading call and my advice is to use this rally to cover your positions and re-enter at lower levels.
With thanks
Be and make
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