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comatose
Looks like selling has stopped, and bargain hunters are accumulating .
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Posted by : poorfellow
It is engaged in production of some chemicals, the sector as a whole is doing well. Look to results and price movement of other companies engaged in the same line. They have risen by 5 to 8 times from the March/09 lows.
But see the price of this company. From 34/- in March to 77-80/- now. However, see the latest results of this company. It is mind boggling. I am giving below a summary in terms of turnover, EPS and NPM:
March/09 Annual: 1250.26/11.99/2.81
June/09 Quartely: 276.00/4.00/4.34
Sept/09 Quarterly: 280.00/7.00/7.34
So, do you find justification of lying this company such lows? Consistence increase of profitability makes it a super Multi-multi-bagger candidate....
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Posted by : sd3
Sir ,
Geo is strategic buy for any LT investor .
Am waiting for sub 80 level to make my buy .
next ,
Whats the new with Atul , I had made my token buy after our last discussion .
But couldnot fine ne news on that board .
sd3.....
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Posted by : poorfellowThat`s it. Spokn will bring the price of Geodesic to high levels. Wait for a few days and observe. ...
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Posted by : prjayachandran
Hi Jayant!
Sincerely sorry, I do not track both these companies....
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Posted by : prjayachandran
Hi Jashn Sarvi!
Thank you for the good words.
Regards....
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Posted by : Rumple
Dear Poorfellow,
Have you been holding Geodesic for long? I ask because I have not seen your comments here earlier.
Geodesic has already launched their VOIP product Spokn earlier this month. Are you reffering to something additional to Spokn?
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About Spokn, from Medianama
Posted by : comatose
How Geodesic’s Spokn Deals With India’s Tough Internet Telephony Norms
By MediaNama ⋅ November 17, 2009
Better late then never, Geodesic, which had recently said that it was working on improving the user interface of its VoIP service Spokn, has finally launched its VoIP offering. On the timing of the launch, with the government shuffling its feet on permitting unrestricted VoIP calls, Ashhar Farhan, Head Technology, Spokn, explained, “First, Internet is here to stay. It makes immense economic sense to lay down just one pipe and stream all services through that one pipe. Sooner than later, Radio, TV, Voice and Text will all migrate to the IP cloud.”
Spokn allows users to make voice calls between PC to PC, Phone to Phone, and PC to Phone. It competes with the likes of Skype, Net2Phone, Vonage, Impetus, Novanet and Yahoo Voice. The company is based out of Singapore and has inked interconnect agreements with International Long Distance providers across the globe - and Spokn calls are routed through their networks. These ILD operators receive a revenue share of 60-65% from the VoIP provider (the exact amount is calculated according to volumes and total call minutes) and the call is directed to the mobile or landline number as a normal voice call.
Geodesic MD Kiran Kulkarni explained to MediaNama the process of making a VoIP call: “our system first notes your number when the call is placed, and the number you want to connect to, then disconnects the line. The caller then receives a call back which patches her onto a conference call with the person she intended to call.”
The audio conferencing technique for VoIP is also used by Sabeer Bhatia backed SabseBolo which acquired Jaxtr, and Google was using the same for its short-lived (in India) click-to-call feature.
For calling any phones in India - including landlines and mobiles - the tariff is $0.02, which approximately amounts to Rs. 0.92 (92 paisa)! Calls to US and UK (landline) are also at $0.02 per minute. More on Spokn’s site
And what about calls placed from India to another number in India - a local or an STD call? Geodesic said that they do not terminate calls on to the Indian PSTN lines that originate from India. On being asked how they deal with such calls then, Kulkarni explained “We take it outside and reroute it. And for a call placed from India to any country, the cost doubles to 4 cents for the user.”
Indian government has banned VoIP call termination on public service telephone networks (PSTN or Landlines) and mobiles, even though Indian regulator TRAI had recommended changes be made for allowing VoIP calls to made to PSTN/PLMN or vice-versa within the country.
“VoIP is not illegal in India. All telco license holders are allowed VoIP if they want to use it. The ISPs too are allowed a restricted form of Internet telephony - IP device in India and a PSTN end-point,” said Farhan told us. ”There has been some noise about security concerns. We share these concerns and we have, in our response to TRAI’s consultation paper gone on to recommend even tougher regulations for Internet telephony. Internet telephony in India is regulated and licensed, which is good thing. If there are valid security concerns, then, the service providers are obliged to deal with it,” he said, adding that ”we will remained engaged in the policy debate while calibrating our India offerings to the evolving regulations.”
Currently, Geodesic says there should be no security concerns as both the originating number and the called number are tracked and this information is shared between the ILD operator and the VoIP service provider.
So whose responsibility is it on to keep a track of the source? Kulkarni said Geodesic follows VoIP guidelines set by regulatory bodies in this matter. ”The problem was - there were two routes: the VoIP route and the grey route. This latter was used and users could identify them by the absence of the originating number on the caller id. It would appear as an unknown number. But if a VoIP provider signs up with ILD operators and transmits the call through their networks, users can see the originating international number,” explains Kulkarni. If the call is made from a PC to a mobile, the number shown on the caller id will be a 10 digit US number, preceded by the country code.
The VoIP service also includes a voice messaging service (VMS) where a subscriber can record and send a 20 second message to any email for free and any phone at fixed cost that includes the 20 second reply. Why 20 seconds? Farhan said: When we started prototyping VMS, we came across a three significant issues. First, long winded VMS tend to become more like podcasts. Second, we cannot provide a fixed cost of delivery. Third, the bandwidth on mobiles can make longer messages really slow. Over months, we tested this extensively and hit the sweet spot of 20 seconds. Geodesic is likely to leverage its recent tie-up with Sybase 365 , a US-based voice messaging service.
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Posted by : poorfellow
Yes, the intrinsic value of Geodesic, an old good stock, cannot be compared with new companies (un-tested strength and intrinsic value like RCom, Bharti Airtel etc.). It is certain that Geodesic will bounce back anytime.
I know particulary the stock Geodesic that it is developing a product which will sensationally thrill the VOIP (Internet voice telephony with genuine giant customers like Google) very shortly. BUY and Hold (Wait) for this stock to jump anytime to 20% UC consecutively for some days within nwxt 20 sessions. Technically, it is now at the major support level of Rs.89/-....
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Posted by :
jashn24
prjayachandranji,
it`s wonderful to have such frank and opinionated senior boarders like yourself and poorfellowji to look up to.have been follwing many of your posts for a while. :)
I guess the poorfellow method of accumulation, which i`m a great fan of, would work wonders in acquiring some of these high beta, but high growth posibility stocks like geodesic.. I agree with your analysis that 88 would be ideal price to get hold of some geod stocks and recover the capital amount while keeping free stocks for long term..as from 88/89, it looks good for an technical bounce back..
thanks for poorfellow for highlighting to us boarders the benifits of this superb technique .
(In crises, there lies gr8 opportunities..)
Cheers
Jashn Sarvi
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Geodesic - A good long term bet
Posted by :
the investorThe company has given decent results in past years and the same is expected in coming years as well. One can expect a return of somewhere between 20%-40% in year`s time from these levels. Regards...The investor...
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Posted by : poorfellowthanks....
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Posted by : poorfellowNo, these two companies are out of my radar. Sorry....
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Posted by : giants
prjayachandran and poorfellow
sir what is your view on these TWO
IT companies in comparison to GEODESIC:
1. SUBEX
2. PRITHVI INFO
Rgds .,, Jayant...
